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Author:  giomarino [ Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:50 pm ]
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This Thread is devoted to Off topic.

Use this topic to talk about everything, in order to avoid clogging the other threads..

Author:  El Capo [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:44 am ]
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Or dribbling the entire opposition team + the keeper a la R9 :mrgreen:

Author:  77Catimba77 [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:51 am ]
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One thing that intrigues me is how people compare players from different eras, and in my opinion you have two options: or you imagine they playing together under the same circunstances and decide who´s better or you simply compare what each one did in his time and sees who is the best.

The first option requires a lot of imagination, knowledge of the sport, the players, the eras, is not an easy task.
The second option is way more simple, football evolves with time like any other sport, of course players from modern eras will always be faster, better prepared, have the matches of the past as reference to become better and better. The same will apply in the future, they will look at football of today and say "look, how naive they were", so this kind of discussion of "who´s better" taking the second option has an expiration date.

Author:  El Capo [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:22 pm ]
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Judge by yourselves:
https://youtu.be/dbJIqjny2Jk

Author:  gurkenjoe93 [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:31 pm ]
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El Capo wrote:
Judge by yourselves:
https://youtu.be/dbJIqjny2Jk


I ask again: if you don't like the attitude of this forum towards classic players, then why don't you simply join PSD?

Author:  StuartBannigan [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:11 pm ]
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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
El Capo wrote:
Judge by yourselves:
https://youtu.be/dbJIqjny2Jk


I ask again: if you don't like the attitude of this forum towards classic players, then why don't you simply join PSD?



Why do we have to pretend those players from the 30s are as good as even players from the 50s? Is it wrong to question their ability at all?

Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:00 pm ]
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Everyone has the right to express their opinion freely, and each must respect the opinion of the other regardless of whether he is right or not, at least this is how i see.

Author:  StuartBannigan [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:13 pm ]
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I found this video interesting:


Very impressive that Hungary had 8 teams in the top 10 at one point, also that Austria had 4 of the top 5 at one point too. Obviously the Hungarian league declined because of the Hungarian revolution and all their best players going abroad, but what happened in the late 50s in Austria that meant their teams massively declined? Was it just regressing back to normal after their two golden eras in the 30s and 50s?

Author:  Interista93 [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:37 pm ]
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StuartBannigan wrote:
Very impressive that Hungary had 8 teams in the top 10 at one point, also that Austria had 4 of the top 5 at one point too. Obviously the Hungarian league declined because of the Hungarian revolution and all their best players going abroad, but what happened in the late 50s in Austria that meant their teams massively declined? Was it just regressing back to normal after their two golden eras in the 30s and 50s?

Your question made me curious. I thought the reason could be linked with the war but I wasn't sure so I made a research. In fact Austria, just like other nations from near the Danubian river, had suffered the post-war. Austria refused to participate to the 1950 World Cup due to the injuries caused by the war and despite having reached the third place in the following one, this was the last year of the great Austria. The nation basically had incredibly great players before and during the war but never had other ones after the independence.

Author:  StuartBannigan [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:58 pm ]
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Yes, I thought it might have been because of the war, although it's surprising that they still had that golden era during the 50s despite the fact that most of the players grew up during the war, also it doesn't really explain why Austria never recovered while other countries did (even Poland, who were hit incredibly hard by the war)

Author:  El Capo [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:21 pm ]
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Well, just wiki the hell out of it :D

Author:  gurkenjoe93 [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:29 pm ]
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Interista93 wrote:
StuartBannigan wrote:
Very impressive that Hungary had 8 teams in the top 10 at one point, also that Austria had 4 of the top 5 at one point too. Obviously the Hungarian league declined because of the Hungarian revolution and all their best players going abroad, but what happened in the late 50s in Austria that meant their teams massively declined? Was it just regressing back to normal after their two golden eras in the 30s and 50s?

Your question made me curious. I thought the reason could be linked with the war but I wasn't sure so I made a research. In fact Austria, just like other nations from near the Danubian river, had suffered the post-war. Austria refused to participate to the 1950 World Cup due to the injuries caused by the war and despite having reached the third place in the following one, this was the last year of the great Austria. The nation basically had incredibly great players before and during the war but never had other ones after the independence.


That's a joke right? What about Krankl? Pezzey? Prohaska? Konsel? Hasil? Polster? Alaba? Not even mentioning other players with international class like Fiala, Huberts (although his international career was cut short because he played abroad, same as Hasil), Herzog, Glechner, Koncilia or Sara..
The Austrian team from 1978 was surely a very good one that beat both Spain and Sweden and reached second round where they also beat our NT..
If you don't know Austrian football history, then please don't make up something that's far from reality :roll:

Author:  Interista93 [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:18 pm ]
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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Interista93 wrote:
StuartBannigan wrote:
Very impressive that Hungary had 8 teams in the top 10 at one point, also that Austria had 4 of the top 5 at one point too. Obviously the Hungarian league declined because of the Hungarian revolution and all their best players going abroad, but what happened in the late 50s in Austria that meant their teams massively declined? Was it just regressing back to normal after their two golden eras in the 30s and 50s?

Your question made me curious. I thought the reason could be linked with the war but I wasn't sure so I made a research. In fact Austria, just like other nations from near the Danubian river, had suffered the post-war. Austria refused to participate to the 1950 World Cup due to the injuries caused by the war and despite having reached the third place in the following one, this was the last year of the great Austria. The nation basically had incredibly great players before and during the war but never had other ones after the independence.


That's a joke right? What about Krankl? Pezzey? Prohaska? Konsel? Hasil? Polster? Alaba? Not even mentioning other players with international class like Fiala, Huberts (although his international career was cut short because he played abroad, same as Hasil), Herzog, Glechner, Koncilia or Sara..
The Austrian team from 1978 was surely a very good one that beat both Spain and Sweden and reached second round where they also beat our NT..
If you don't know Austrian football history, then please don't make up something that's far from reality :roll:

Yes, but at national team level they never reached the heights of their golden era. I didn't express myself right. I know all those players for sure. Some of them played also in Italy and I even remember Konsel at Roma. They were all international greats but could never lead their national team really far other than in the 1978 and 1982 World Cups.

Author:  El Capo [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:46 pm ]
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Image

I said that when Madrid defeated Liverpool, lmao :mrgreen:

Author:  gurkenjoe93 [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:56 pm ]
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Ramos wasn't on the pitch (what a smart move from him in the first match) but it seems Nacho is a worthy replacement 8-)

Author:  StuartBannigan [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:09 pm ]
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What an incredible performance by Ajax, this team really has the potential to do something amazing, shame that they'll get taken apart in the next transfer window. Hard to believe that's the same Tadić that was an average player at Southampton only a year ago...

Maybe now people will realise just how important Ronaldo and Ramos were to Madrid's Champions League success ;) This Madrid team looks devoid of drive, incredible how complacent and entitled they are, as if they just expect the wins to come without even trying, Ramos's yellow card in the first leg being a perfect example of that.

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