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giomarino
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:57 pm Posts: 457 Location: Modena, Italy
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Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:50 pm |
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D19
Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:37 pm Posts: 35
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Nobody gonna do a playmaker all stars team, in the team could do ederson moraes as gk and harry kane as cf
or long pass acurracy all stars team and short pass acuraccy all stars team sorry for the escriture horror mistakes, my native lenguage is not english, is spanish i could do if the admin give me the opcion to do that all stars team/s
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Sat May 18, 2024 12:23 pm |
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Biondi
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:45 pm Posts: 120
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D19 wrote: Nobody gonna do a playmaker all stars team, in the team could do ederson moraes as gk and harry kane as cf
or long pass acurracy all stars team and short pass acuraccy all stars team sorry for the escriture horror mistakes, my native lenguage is not english, is spanish i could do if the admin give me the opcion to do that all stars team/s false 9 Messi as a playmaker CF> by the way you should specify what you consider a playmaker because having high pass stats is not the only thing they need
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Sat May 18, 2024 5:49 pm |
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D19
Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:37 pm Posts: 35
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you gonna explain me your point, im not understanding, sorry
harry kane have better aereal game than messi, messi is no tall, you understand me, thats the reason i think in him before messi, my team is more tactical and funcional in a game
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Sat May 18, 2024 8:30 pm |
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Biondi
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:45 pm Posts: 120
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D19 wrote: you gonna explain me your point, im not understanding, sorry
harry kane have better aereal game than messi, messi is no tall, you understand me, thats the reason i think in him before messi, my team is more tactical and funcional in a game you said you wanted a playmaker team and Messi is much better at doing that than Kane
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Sun May 19, 2024 1:23 pm |
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D19
Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:37 pm Posts: 35
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i know messi is better playmaker than kane but kane is better in aereal game than messi, that's why I prefer Kane than Messi in this team, so that it is more tactical, otherwise the team would have no chance when it comes to the aerial game.
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Tue May 21, 2024 11:31 am |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4617
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D19 wrote: i know messi is better playmaker than kane but kane is better in aereal game than messi, that's why I prefer Kane than Messi in this team, so that it is more tactical, otherwise the team would have no chance when it comes to the aerial game. That has nothing to do with playmaking. Maradona, Platini, Bobby Charlton, Pirlo, Totti are some examples of playmakers. What do they have in common with Kane?
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Tue May 21, 2024 12:10 pm |
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D19
Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:37 pm Posts: 35
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nobody understand me, i put kane not for playmaking, i put here for tactical purpose, nobody of the players in the team are good in aereal game, kane is the solution of the problem, I mean, I say this because I want to be more tactical, if it were a team more of playmakers I would put Messi as a false 9, if interist would interest in the proyect he can put Messi as a false 9 but he should have Kane at least in reserves. I would like you to at least mention me in the post, because I was the one who gave the idea, but if he doesn't want to, I'm no one to stop him, let him do whatever he wants with the post
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Tue May 21, 2024 6:20 pm |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4617
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D19 wrote: nobody understand me, i put kane not for playmaking, i put here for tactical purpose, nobody of the players in the team are good in aereal game, kane is the solution of the problem, I mean, I say this because I want to be more tactical, if it were a team more of playmakers I would put Messi as a false 9, if interist would interest in the proyect he can put Messi as a false 9 but he should have Kane at least in reserves. I would like you to at least mention me in the post, because I was the one who gave the idea, but if he doesn't want to, I'm no one to stop him, let him do whatever he wants with the post The way you're putting this makes me think of an all stars team based on teamwork. But then I'm not sure Messi would deserve to be there. Maybe you're confusing playmaking with teamwork. If we're talking about playmakers by the literal meaning of the word, then it would make sense to have a false nueve instead of a centre-forward. Or you can have Alfredo Di Stéfano as centre-forward, for example, but surely not Kane.
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Tue May 21, 2024 6:53 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2554
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Interista93 wrote: D19 wrote: nobody understand me, i put kane not for playmaking, i put here for tactical purpose, nobody of the players in the team are good in aereal game, kane is the solution of the problem, I mean, I say this because I want to be more tactical, if it were a team more of playmakers I would put Messi as a false 9, if interist would interest in the proyect he can put Messi as a false 9 but he should have Kane at least in reserves. I would like you to at least mention me in the post, because I was the one who gave the idea, but if he doesn't want to, I'm no one to stop him, let him do whatever he wants with the post The way you're putting this makes me think of an all stars team based on teamwork. But then I'm not sure Messi would deserve to be there. Maybe you're confusing playmaking with teamwork. If we're talking about playmakers by the literal meaning of the word, then it would make sense to have a false nueve instead of a centre-forward. Or you can have Alfredo Di Stéfano as centre-forward, for example, but surely not Kane. Any why not? Kane is arguably the best ever CF in terms of playmaking abilities. He can play short passes, he can play precise passes over 30, 40 meters. He drops back to midfield to collect the ball and to organize the game. I didn't realize those things that much until he joined us but Kane is the type of player who does the work of both striker and a playmaker - and between that, he finds time to participate in defense as well. One day his country will probably realize that as well, especially all those pathetic wankers who try to demise him because he has no trophy.
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Tue May 21, 2024 7:24 pm |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1668
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Kane is definitely the best CF ever at playmaking, he has some of the best passing range in world football, no striker could ever hit perfect 50 yard passes like him. Still, that team would probably be too difficult to make as there’s too many different definitions of playmaking.
Something like Heading or Aerial All Stars would be pretty cool though.
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Tue May 21, 2024 7:47 pm |
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Nacho1605
Joined: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:21 pm Posts: 361 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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StuartBannigan wrote: Something like Heading or Aerial All Stars would be pretty cool though. This one sounds good. The first name that comes to my mind is Oliver Bierhoff. Martín Palermo, Iván Zamorano, Santillana,... I always liked more a good header than a long shot. This is very niche but in Argentina, I remember a player called Franco Niell who was 1.63 (5′4″) and scored more than half of his goals from headers; I always found it quite funny. 
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Tue May 21, 2024 8:33 pm |
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Kolektivitet
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:08 am Posts: 533
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Nacho1605 wrote: StuartBannigan wrote: Something like Heading or Aerial All Stars would be pretty cool though. This one sounds good. The first name that comes to my mind is Oliver Bierhoff. Martín Palermo, Iván Zamorano, Santillana,... I always liked more a good header than a long shot. This is very niche but in Argentina, I remember a player called Franco Niell who was 1.63 (5′4″) and scored more than half of his goals from headers; I always found it quite funny.  Also Hrubesch, Bettega, A.Spencer, mighty Uwe Seeler  , Dixie Dean, Lofthouse, Aguas, John Charles...crazy team just up front 
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Tue May 21, 2024 8:36 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 449
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Leivinha, Jardel, Oséas, Gaúcho, Chicão... all them great Brazilian headers.
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Tue May 21, 2024 8:38 pm |
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Nacho1605
Joined: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:21 pm Posts: 361 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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From Argentina, the best is by far Martín Palermo. Then Bernardo Romeo, Norberto Raffo, Daniel Passarella, Victorio Cocco, and Gabriel Batistuta are others that come to mind. But I don't think we've produced that many header specialists throughout history here.
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Tue May 21, 2024 8:47 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2554
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Kocsis is IMO undisputed king of headers, followed by Seeler and Santillana. From Germany Hrubesch and Bierhoff are good calls (although I don't consider him better than Seeler who had more variety/ability to actually place the ball even from difficult positions), other names would be Klose, Riedle, Dieter Hoeneß, Völler, Klinsmann, Kirsten and of course Gerd Müller. And that's just a selection, Ballack, Kießling, Dieter Müller, Streich, Dieter Kühn or Rüdiger Schnuphase (certainly more unknown but they dominated the air in East Germany) are other names. Now as I think about it: Our country really produced some great header specialists From more recent time I'd say Falcao, Sergio Ramos and CR7 are a class of their own although there were of course other decent headers like Drogba, Lewandowski, Aduriz, van Dijk or Vidic..
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Tue May 21, 2024 9:17 pm |
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