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From Argentina, the best is by far Martín Palermo. Then Bernardo Romeo, Norberto Raffo, Daniel Passarella, Victorio Cocco, and Gabriel Batistuta are others that come to mind. But I don't think we've produced that many header specialists throughout history here.


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Kocsis is IMO undisputed king of headers, followed by Seeler and Santillana. From Germany Hrubesch and Bierhoff are good calls (although I don't consider him better than Seeler who had more variety/ability to actually place the ball even from difficult positions), other names would be Klose, Riedle, Dieter Hoeneß, Völler, Klinsmann, Kirsten and of course Gerd Müller. And that's just a selection, Ballack, Kießling, Dieter Müller, Streich, Dieter Kühn or Rüdiger Schnuphase (certainly more unknown but they dominated the air in East Germany) are other names. Now as I think about it: Our country really produced some great header specialists :lol:
From more recent time I'd say Falcao, Sergio Ramos and CR7 are a class of their own although there were of course other decent headers like Drogba, Lewandowski, Aduriz, van Dijk or Vidic..


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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Kocsis is IMO undisputed king of headers, followed by Seeler and Santillana. From Germany Hrubesch and Bierhoff are good calls (although I don't consider him better than Seeler who had more variety/ability to actually place the ball even from difficult positions), other names would be Klose, Riedle, Dieter Hoeneß, Völler, Klinsmann, Kirsten and of course Gerd Müller. And that's just a selection, Ballack, Kießling, Dieter Müller, Streich, Dieter Kühn or Rüdiger Schnuphase (certainly more unknown but they dominated the air in East Germany) are other names. Now as I think about it: Our country really produced some great header specialists :lol:
From more recent time I'd say Falcao, Sergio Ramos and CR7 are a class of their own although there were of course other decent headers like Drogba, Lewandowski, Aduriz, van Dijk or Vidic..


Katalinski was one of the ex-Yugoslav players with the highest aerial threat, but also Bane Ivanovic from the modern ones. Oh and I'll never forget Tim Cahill and his heavenly header against us in 2010 World Cup, when he outjumped Nemanja Vidic....

I would add Ruggeri for Argentina, Ivan Cordoba as well..
and to be fair, the Dutch Milan trio was pretty impressive - Gullit, Rijkaard, Van Basten + Kluivert from the Dutch ones..


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We had quite a few in Italy: Riva, Bettega, Christian Vieri, Filippo Inzaghi, Altobelli, Pruzzo, Aldo Serena, Toni, Chinaglia. Our defenders probably weren't as good as those strikers, but Bergomi, Vierchowod and Salvadore come to mind. What about goalkeepers though? Should be considered those who happened to score a header or maybe those who also played as centre-forwards and had a solid heading ability?


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Bola Clássica wrote:
Leivinha, Jardel, Oséas, Gaúcho, Chicão... all them great Brazilian headers.


Adding two more great headers from Brazil in case someone decide to make this team

- Dadá Maravilha
- Baltazar


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I was thinking of goalkeepers with huge leaps like Vladimir Beara, IMO one of the contenders for having 99 Jump. From players from recent years, El-Nesyri has an enormous jump, obviously there’s the goal against Portugal but he has lots of other amazing leaps.

Britain produced a lot of excellent headers because it was a huge part of the game over here. Jimmy McGrory was probably the best in Scotland along with Henrik Larsson, but others like Gordon McQueen and Joe Jordan were also dominant in the air.


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Nacho1605 wrote:
This is very niche but in Argentina, I remember a player called Franco Niell who was 1.63 (5′4″) and scored more than half of his goals from headers; I always found it quite funny. :lol:


I don't think he deserves to be in the team but I'm going to make a set for this guy, just for fun. I think it'd be hilarious to play in game with a 5′4″ midget with red values in JUM.

Arsenio Erico, the Paraguayan striker was also an amazing header. In this forum, he has 90/96 in HEA/JUM and probably deserves a spot here. Alberto Spencer, as Kolektiviet mentioned, Dadá Maravilha (who's arguably the best Brazilian header, I don't know if Bola Clássica agrees :lol: ), Jared Borgetti, Severino Varela, Telmo Zarra, Diego Simeone, Brian McBride, Marcel Desailly (who reached heights similar to CR7 in the air), and arguably Carlos Mozer are other names that come to my mind.


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From England I'll throw in Terry, Adams, Campbell, Butcher, Bruce, Shearer, Lofthouse, Hurst and Les Ferdinand.

Also Tim Cahill deserves a mention and there's José Augusto if you needed a winger in there.


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Mitrović, Milošević, Kovačević, Ivanović, Vidić, Hasanagić, Savić, Bjeković...wow, pretty decent headers came from my country.

Also, Kennet Andersson needs to be mentioned here.


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What a performance. And Lookman, what a player. Great match from Ederson too. Atalanta has deserved the trophy.


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Such a long time to see a hattrick in a major European competition final, an incredible performance from Lookman. Xhaka once again missed a continent title.


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I don't know where to post this but, I recently posted a stats set for Messi but it disappeared about a week later, why is that and what's the issue?


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You can also do a teamwork all stars team, the playmaking team is ready, i do it, but i reserve for myself, In addition, more analysis is needed, i need a encyclopedia to do the team like i want
the teamwork team may look like another Barcelona, just only i have to find the players, It would be easier if there was a stats comparator like the pes stats database did, I made several all stars teams with that comparator, i do the teamwork team modern, but i dont know the all time, all stars team

anyway, nobody gonna actualize bologna, atlanta,leverkusen, girona all stars,


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D19 wrote:
anyway, nobody gonna actualize bologna, atlanta,leverkusen, girona all stars,

You can see that suggestions for updating Bologna, Atalanta and Bayer Leverkusen have already been given. Just give time to the admins to make the eventual changes or to the other users to give more ideas. About Girona, I already updated the team towards the end of this season, but I plan to check it again.


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