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SPAIN ALL STARS



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Honours:

FIFA World Cup

Winners (1): 2010
Fourth place (1): 1950


UEFA European Championship

Winners (3): 1964, 2008, 2012
Runners-up (1): 1984
Semi-finals (1): 2021


UEFA Nations League

Runners-up (1): 2021

FIFA Confederations Cup

Runners-up (1): 2013
Third place (1): 2009



COACH: Vicente DEL BOSQUE

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The best ever Spanish players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Ricardo ZAMORA
Iker CASILLAS


DEFENDERS:

Jacinto QUINCOCES
Joan SEGARRA
José Antonio CAMACHO
Rafael GORDILLO
Fernando HIERRO
Carles PUYOL
Sergio RAMOS


MIDFIELDERS:

Luis SUÁREZ
PIRRI
MÍCHEL
LUIS ENRIQUE
XAVI Hernández
Xabi ALONSO
Andrés INIESTA


FORWARDS:

Telmo ZARRA
Francisco GENTO
Alfredo DI STÉFANO
AMANCIO
Emilio BUTRAGUEÑO
RAÚL González
David VILLA





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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

José Ángel IRIBAR
Luis ARCONADA
Andoni ZUBIZARRETA


DEFENDERS:

Jesús GARAY
Ferran OLIVELLA
Feliciano RIVILLA
MIGUELI
Antonio MACEDA
Manuel SANCHÍS
Miguel Ángel NADAL
Joan CAPDEVILA
Gerard PIQUÉ
Jordi ALBA


MIDFIELDERS:

Josep SAMITIER
Antonio PUCHADES
● Juan Manuel ASENSI
Víctor MUÑOZ
Ricardo GALLEGO
Juan SEÑOR
Josep GUARDIOLA
Cesc FÀBREGAS
David SILVA
Sergio BUSQUETS


FORWARDS:

Luis REGUEIRO
Isidro LÁNGARA
Piru GAÍNZA
Estanislao BASORA
Ladislao KUBALA
Carlos SANTILLANA
JUANITO
Julio SALINAS
Fernando MORIENTES
Fernando TORRES




THE BEST EVER XI

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GK ZAMORA
CB HIERRO ©
CB PUYOL
RB RAMOS
LB CAMACHO
DMF PIRRI
CMF XAVI
CMF SUAREZ
AMF INIESTA
SS DI STEFANO
CF VILLA

Captain: Fernando Hierro | José Antonio Camacho | Sergio Ramos
Short Free Kick: Fernando Hierro | David Villa
Long Free Kick: Luis Suarez | Fernando Hierro
Right Corner Kick: Luis Suarez | Xavi
Left Corner Kick: Luis Suarez | Xavi
Penalty: Fernando Hierro | David Villa


Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:33 pm
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I'd personally like to see Quincoces back in the first squad..


Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:37 pm
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For me the team is pretty accurate right now... The only two who can be replaced by Quincoces are Sergio Ramos (SB and CB in the golden years of Spanish NT history) or Hierro.

The thing about Jacinto Quincoces is: he was probably the best Spanish CB ever, but he only played 8 official matches with Spain


Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:18 am
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National team selection criterium should be: how much a player has been important for his national and how much good has been his performances.
Wikipedia says Quincoces has 25 caps with national team I don't know how well he performed in this matches especially in WC'34 but for sure Hierro deserves to stay in first team maybe he could replace Sergio Ramos.

If everybody agree I'd remove Mata from reserves and move Iniesta to first team in place of Michel.

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Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:55 am
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I'd personally replace Ramos with Quincoces and put Quincoces back in best XI ;)
Also I'd say that Pereda should replace Mata in reserves..


Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:22 pm
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Replaced Mata with Pereda...


Sat May 02, 2015 12:38 am
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Replaced Michel with Iniesta..also updated Formation, again :l


Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:48 am
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Why is Gento no more part of best XI?


Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:11 am
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if you see below of the image, Gento is an alternative for Di Stéfano, just like Amancio for Raúl
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GK: Zamora/Casillas
RB: Segarra/Sergio Ramos
SW: Hierro
CB: Puyol
LB: Camacho/Gordillo
DM: Pirri
CM: Xavi/Iniesta
AM/CM: Luis Suarez/Luis Enrique
SS/RW: Raul/Amancio
SS/LW: Di Stefano/Gento
CF: Villa

The thing is, which player you will sit instead of Gento? Di Stéfano? Raúl? They were much more important than Gento for the NT (I can't understand Spain, we always had great players, but we only had the luck to win since 2008 to 2012, at least all the titles except one Euro cup :lol: )

After thinking it too much, In my opinion the Best XI should be the idea of Spanish team of 2008-2012... (They played with 1-4-5-1)

I mean something like this:
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GK: Casillas, he is definitely the most important GK in Spanish NT ever, although I prefer Zamora and Arconada.
RB: Sergio Ramos, I prefer Segarra, but Ramos is the 3rd player with more matches played with the NT, only Casillas and Xavi has more appearances than him, and don't forget what he won.
SW: Hierro
CB: Puyol
LB: Camacho
DMF: Pirri
CMF: Xavi/Luís Suárez
AMF: Di Stéfano
RMF: Amancio
LMF: Gento
CF/SS: Villa/Raúl

I think this XI could suit better Spain, if you see the Strikers... Only Gento can play on the side, and doesn't matter the position, he played very well as WF and equal as SM... And all other Strikers are CF except Di Stéfano, and some second positions of the others Strikers which are SS, so, it seems logic


Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:24 pm
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Also, i took the formation of what they showed on 2012, but without the weird idea of playing without a CF, but regarding the Spain during 2008-2012, they at least from what i've see with no side midfielders/Wingers, just with AMF, so indeed

Regarding the luck of Spain in international tournaments, i think they could have won on 2002, but you know, sometimes you'll need more than luck to advance...


Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:03 pm
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Well, it can be SMF and AMF playing on the side, it really doesn't matter. That Spain, Iniesta can play as SMF and AMF, and Silva too so, and the natural changes in that positions were Jesús Navas (SMF) and Cazorla (SMF too)... It can be with the two options, and for the All Star, I prefer with SMF, if not Amancio and Gento wouldn't play never... :lol:

And don't you think the Coach should be Luís Aragonés or Vicente Del Bosque instead of Kubala? (I mean most of the Honours are there with these 2 coaches)


Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:01 pm
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Updated the coach, also added your formation as alternative, just say your "ideal" formation setting like i've posted here and on the french team.


Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:27 pm
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Replaced Zarra with Torres..


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Why There are Luis ARAGONES in forward?


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Di Stéfano hasn't to be in the first team. For me he has to be in Argentina All Stars, not in this place. But I respect your opinions. By the way, I propose to add Busquets to reserves.


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Sorry for spamming these all star threads too much, but is there any reason Santillana is in first team over Zarra? Considering Zarra was probably the best Spanish striker in history, led Spain to the final stage in the 1950 World Cup (still their second best result) and scored more goals in nowhere near as many games as Santillana I feel it makes sense to have him here...


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