It is currently Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:43 pm



Reply to topic  [ 37 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 Italy All Stars 
Author Message

Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 pm
Posts: 106
Team created by a collaborative effort of 27DONI72, Milos, StuartBannigan and gurkenjoe93

ITALY ALL STARS



Image


Image






Honours:

FIFA World Cup

Winners (4): 1934, 1938, 1982, 2006
Runners-up (2): 1970, 1994
Third place (1): 1990
Fourth place (1): 1978


UEFA European Championship

Winners (1): 1968
Runners-up (2): 2000, 2012
Fourth place (1): 1980
Semi-finals (1): 1988


FIFA Confederations Cup

Third place (1): 2013


COACH: Vittorio POZZO

Image


The best ever Italian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Dino ZOFF
Gianluigi BUFFON


DEFENDERS:

Giacinto FACCHETTI
Claudio GENTILE
Gaetano SCIREA
Giuseppe BERGOMI
Franco BARESI
Paolo MALDINI
Fabio CANNAVARO



MIDFIELDERS:

Giovanni FERRARI
Gianni RIVERA
Sandro MAZZOLA
Romeo BENETTI
Giancarlo ANTOGNONI
Marco TARDELLI
Andrea PIRLO


FORWARDS:

Raimundo ORSI
Giuseppe MEAZZA
Silvio PIOLA
Luigi RIVA
Paolo ROSSI
Bruno CONTI
Roberto BAGGIO





_____________________________________________________________



RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Gianpiero COMBI
Enrico ALBERTOSI
Walter ZENGA


DEFENDERS:

Virginio ROSETTA
Umberto CALIGARIS
Eraldo MONZEGLIO
Tarcisio BURGNICH
Roberto ROSATO
Antonio CABRINI
Alessandro COSTACURTA
Alessandro NESTA
Gianluca ZAMBROTTA
Giorgio CHIELLINI


MIDFIELDERS:

Adolfo BALONCIERI
Michele ANDREOLO
Valentino MAZZOLA
Giacomo BULGARELLI
Giancarlo DE SISTI
Franco CAUSIO
Gabriele ORIALI
Roberto DONADONI
Demetrio ALBERTINI
Daniele DE ROSSI


FORWARDS:

Angelo SCHIAVIO
Gino COLAUSSI
Giampiero BONIPERTI
Angelo DOMENGHINI
Francesco GRAZIANI
Roberto BETTEGA
Alessandro ALTOBELLI
Gianluca VIALLI
Christian VIERI
Francesco TOTTI






THE BEST EVER XI

Image

GK ZOFF
SWP BARESI
CB MALDINI
RB/CB BERGOMI
LB/LWB FACCHETTI ©
DMF SCIREA
CMF TARDELLI
AMF RIVERA
SS MEAZZA
SS BAGGIO
CF RIVA

Captain: Giacinto Facchetti | Dino Zoff | Franco Baresi | Giuseppe Meazza
Short Free Kick: Roberto Baggio | Luigi Riva | Gianni Rivera
Long Free Kick: Gianni Rivera | Roberto Baggio
Left Corner: Gianni Rivera | Roberto Baggio
Right Corner: Gianni Rivera | Roberto Baggio
Penalty: Giuseppe Meazza | Gianni Rivera


Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:31 pm
Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm
Posts: 1822
JeanMarc wrote:
I'll tell you why am I angry:
Neuer won WC, so what :?: Illgner won WC too, Turek as well, and they were both better keepers...How many players from 1954 team are in Germany's first team :?: .

This is a joke right? No one in Germany (even not in Köln) would say that these two keepers were better than Neuer :lol: Although I know you hate modern football but you can't be serious if you say that Turek is a better GK than Neuer..


Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:08 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:47 pm
Posts: 113
Linked every player in the team:

Spoiler: show
The best ever Italian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Dino ZOFF
Gianluigi BUFFON


DEFENDERS:

Virginio ROSETTA
Giacinto FACCHETTI
Gaetano SCIREA
Claudio GENTILE
Franco BARESI
Giuseppe BERGOMI
Paolo MALDINI
Alessandro NESTA


MIDFIELDERS:

Giovanni FERRARI
Romeo BENETTI
Franco CAUSIO
Sandro MAZZOLA
Gianni RIVERA
Giancarlo ANTOGNONI
Marco TARDELLI
Bruno CONTI


FORWARDS:

Giuseppe MEAZZA
Silvio PIOLA
Luigi RIVA
Paolo ROSSI
Roberto BAGGIO





_____________________________________________________________



RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Gianpiero COMBI
Enrico ALBERTOSI
Walter ZENGA
Gianluca PAGLIUCA


DEFENDERS:

Renzo DE VECCHI
Umberto CALIGARIS
Luigi ALLEMANDI
Eraldo MONZEGLIO
Alfredo FONI
Pietro RAVA
Ardico MAGNINI
Sergio CERVATO
Armando PICCHI
Tarcisio BURGNICH
Sandro SALVADORE
Roberto ROSATO
Antonio CABRINI
Pietro VIERCHOWOD
Alessandro COSTACURTA
Ciro FERRARA
Antonio BENARRIVO
Fabio CANNAVARO
Gianluca ZAMBROTTA


MIDFIELDERS:

Adolfo BALONCIERI
Fulvio BERNARDINI
Giancarlo DE SISTI
Valentino MAZZOLA
Fabio CAPELLO
Giacomo BULGARELLI
Gabriele ORIALI
Roberto DONADONI
Fernando DE NAPOLI
Giuseppe GIANNINI
Gianfranco ZOLA
Dino BAGGIO
Demetrio ALBERTINI
Gennaro GATTUSO
Andrea PIRLO


FORWARDS:

Raimundo ORSI
Angelo SCHIAVIO
Giampiero BONIPERTI
Angelo DOMENGHINI
Roberto BONINSEGNA
Roberto BETTEGA
Francesco GRAZIANI
Alessandro ALTOBELLI
Gianluca VIALLI
Roberto MANCINI
Salvatore "Totò" SCHILLACI
Giuseppe SIGNORI
Christian VIERI
Alessandro DEL PIERO
Francesco TOTTI


Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:38 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:07 am
Posts: 639
Michele ANDREOLO to reserves?


Wed May 03, 2017 11:15 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:54 pm
Posts: 1352
Location: Argentina
Use a spoiler with a list of 11 Honorable Mentions..

_________________
Spoiler: show
Image


Thu May 04, 2017 2:37 pm
Profile WWW
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am
Posts: 2734
Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
More reserves here? Unlikely.

The only logical debate here is the capitano campione del mondo Cannavaro in for the forever injured Nesta.


Thu May 04, 2017 3:25 pm
Profile

Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:43 am
Posts: 282
Location: 日本(茨城)
about standard of serect player is ability>title?
If I'm right, I don't say anything to this team..


Thu May 04, 2017 3:36 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am
Posts: 2734
Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
27DONI72 wrote:
I agree but if our standard of choice for all stars teams/nationals is how much players has been important for the team/national.


This must be the absolute "criteria" regarding AS.


Thu May 04, 2017 3:59 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:07 am
Posts: 639
It says all stars not biggest achievements ...


Thu May 04, 2017 4:35 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:54 pm
Posts: 1352
Location: Argentina
So we have to avoid these shamefull things , with no intention of offense anybody.

Quote:
Concerning Messi, well, in my criteria for entering in this team he shouldn't be here.. his influence and sucess with NT aren't good, also he didn't played for any senior club from SA, only looking on individual quality, but I wouldn't put him for now..



Quote:
Why? He is by far better than Messi and had played more than good role in two South American clubs.. He is Argentinian born, it's true that played for Spain NT he didn't appeared in any big tournament but he scored 23 goals in 31 matches and changed history of Spanish football..


Probably Messi will become the best player in history in my opinion , i respect if other think that other player can be the better :)

_________________
Spoiler: show
Image


Thu May 04, 2017 4:37 pm
Profile WWW
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am
Posts: 2734
Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
artemds wrote:
It says all stars not biggest achievements ...


Aside from Gattuso with technique aka Benetti and R. Baggio, all of them have won something with the Nazionale, so yes, biggest achivements mean something for this kind of team.

TheGreatRossonero wrote:
So we have to avoid these shamefull things , with no intention of offense anybody.
Quote:
Concerning Messi, well, in my criteria for entering in this team he shouldn't be here.. his influence and sucess with NT aren't good, also he didn't played for any senior club from SA, only looking on individual quality, but I wouldn't put him for now..


Quote:
Why? He is by far better than Messi and had played more than good role in two South American clubs.. He is Argentinian born, it's true that played for Spain NT he didn't appeared in any big tournament but he scored 23 goals in 31 matches and changed history of Spanish football..


Probably Messi will become the best player in history in my opinion , i respect if other think that other player can be the better


Not the place to comment that, but at least he was honoured with his name on reserves there for becoming the top-scorer of his nation.


Thu May 04, 2017 5:01 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:07 am
Posts: 639
Yes mean something but not all neither the amount of matches.


Thu May 04, 2017 5:43 pm
Profile

Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm
Posts: 973
I really fail to see why Rosetta is in the first team despite the fact he only played in the opening game at the 1934 World Cup, if anyone from the 30s should be in the team, it should be Monzeglio or Rava, especially Monzeglio who won 2 World Cups and was in the team of the tournament in 1934. And of course, Cannavaro deserves first team much more, being the captain in 2006 and giving legendary performances the whole tournament, certainly better than Nesta ever played for Italy...

Having Rosetta in the team is like having Alfred Pfaff or Heinz Flohe in the Germany team or Ricardo Bochini in the Argentina team: legendary players, but played basically no part in their countries biggest achievements. And Rosetta is not someone like Baggio who is arguably Italy's greatest attacking player of all time and the best player of his generation. So if someone wants to make a genuine argument as to why Rosetta should be there over Cannavaro, go ahead, but there really is no acceptable reason other than bias...


Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:27 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am
Posts: 2734
Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
StuartBannigan wrote:
So if someone wants to make a genuine argument as to why Rosetta should be there over Cannavaro, go ahead, but there really is no acceptable reason other than bias...


You answered yourself. :D


Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:36 pm
Profile
Amministratore

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:44 pm
Posts: 732
StuartBannigan wrote:
I really fail to see why Rosetta is in the first team despite the fact he only played in the opening game at the 1934 World Cup, if anyone from the 30s should be in the team, it should be Monzeglio or Rava, especially Monzeglio who won 2 World Cups and was in the team of the tournament in 1934. And of course, Cannavaro deserves first team much more, being the captain in 2006 and giving legendary performances the whole tournament, certainly better than Nesta ever played for Italy...

Having Rosetta in the team is like having Alfred Pfaff or Heinz Flohe in the Germany team or Ricardo Bochini in the Argentina team: legendary players, but played basically no part in their countries biggest achievements. And Rosetta is not someone like Baggio who is arguably Italy's greatest attacking player of all time and the best player of his generation. So if someone wants to make a genuine argument as to why Rosetta should be there over Cannavaro, go ahead, but there really is no acceptable reason other than bias...

Not exactly, Rosetta has been a great player for Italy but he should be out for another motivation: in modern football he would be sweeper and we have already Baresi and Scirea.
If our criterium is national performance Cannavaro should be in for sure, amazing in 2006 but very good in 1998 (not against Salas :lol: ) and in 2000. Nesta was surely better than Cannavaro but he was very unlucky and always injuried so Fabio has reached higher performances than him.


Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:27 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am
Posts: 2734
Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
27DONI72 wrote:
If our criterium is national performance Cannavaro should be in for sure, amazing in 2006 but very good in 1998 (not against Salas :lol: ) and in 2000. Nesta was surely better than Cannavaro but he was very unlucky and always injuried so Fabio has reached higher performances than him.


Well of course the main criteria is their perfomance at international level.

And what's this bullshit as "players class"? We are talking about the top NT on the world, not so random poor NT like Venezuela or China where you eventually will bring the most known players to fill the squad.


Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:05 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 37 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.