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Team created by a collaborative effort of 27DONI72, Milos, StuartBannigan and gurkenjoe93

ITALY ALL STARS



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Honours:

FIFA World Cup

Winners (4): 1934, 1938, 1982, 2006
Runners-up (2): 1970, 1994
Third place (1): 1990
Fourth place (1): 1978


UEFA European Championship

Winners (1): 1968
Runners-up (2): 2000, 2012
Fourth place (1): 1980
Semi-finals (1): 1988


FIFA Confederations Cup

Third place (1): 2013


COACH: Vittorio POZZO

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The best ever Italian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Dino ZOFF
Gianluigi BUFFON


DEFENDERS:

Giacinto FACCHETTI
Claudio GENTILE
Gaetano SCIREA
Giuseppe BERGOMI
Franco BARESI
Paolo MALDINI
Fabio CANNAVARO



MIDFIELDERS:

Giovanni FERRARI
Gianni RIVERA
Sandro MAZZOLA
Romeo BENETTI
Giancarlo ANTOGNONI
Marco TARDELLI
Andrea PIRLO


FORWARDS:

Raimundo ORSI
Giuseppe MEAZZA
Silvio PIOLA
Luigi RIVA
Paolo ROSSI
Bruno CONTI
Roberto BAGGIO





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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Gianpiero COMBI
Enrico ALBERTOSI
Walter ZENGA


DEFENDERS:

Virginio ROSETTA
Umberto CALIGARIS
Eraldo MONZEGLIO
Tarcisio BURGNICH
Roberto ROSATO
Antonio CABRINI
Alessandro COSTACURTA
Alessandro NESTA
Gianluca ZAMBROTTA
Giorgio CHIELLINI


MIDFIELDERS:

Adolfo BALONCIERI
Michele ANDREOLO
Valentino MAZZOLA
Giacomo BULGARELLI
Giancarlo DE SISTI
Franco CAUSIO
Gabriele ORIALI
Roberto DONADONI
Demetrio ALBERTINI
Daniele DE ROSSI


FORWARDS:

Angelo SCHIAVIO
Gino COLAUSSI
Giampiero BONIPERTI
Angelo DOMENGHINI
Francesco GRAZIANI
Roberto BETTEGA
Alessandro ALTOBELLI
Gianluca VIALLI
Christian VIERI
Francesco TOTTI






THE BEST EVER XI

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GK ZOFF
SWP BARESI
CB MALDINI
RB/CB BERGOMI
LB/LWB FACCHETTI ©
DMF SCIREA
CMF TARDELLI
AMF RIVERA
SS MEAZZA
SS BAGGIO
CF RIVA

Captain: Giacinto Facchetti | Dino Zoff | Franco Baresi | Giuseppe Meazza
Short Free Kick: Roberto Baggio | Luigi Riva | Gianni Rivera
Long Free Kick: Gianni Rivera | Roberto Baggio
Left Corner: Gianni Rivera | Roberto Baggio
Right Corner: Gianni Rivera | Roberto Baggio
Penalty: Giuseppe Meazza | Gianni Rivera


Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:31 pm
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Although I know most of you will hate me for that suggestion but IMO Andrea Pirlo has to be in first team. I'm not sure who he should replace (IMO Valentino Mazzola or Bulgarelli who were of course two of the greatest Italian players ever but didn't contribute anything important to the NT) but he has archieved so much with the NT so that he finally deserves a place here..


Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:39 pm
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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Although I know most of you will hate me for that suggestion but IMO Andrea Pirlo has to be in first team. I'm not sure who he should replace (IMO Valentino Mazzola or Bulgarelli who were of course two of the greatest Italian players ever but didn't contribute anything important to the NT) but he has archieved so much with the NT so that he finally deserves a place here..

Valentino Mazzola is one of the best 4-5 italian players of all time, I wouldn't move him to reserves even if he didn't contribute anything to the NT.
Bulgarelli was great in 1962 WC and in 1966 he had a knee injury in the decisive match against North Korea, I think he has been unlucky because he played in one of the most confusing era for Italy NT.

Pirlo has surely achieved more than them even if I think 2006 has been the worst WC ever with 2002 one...

Bulgarelli and Pirlo deserve both to stay in the 23 men squad... Bulgarelli was a better player but Pirlo has been more important for the NT...

I'd like to see other opinions.


Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:59 pm
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its kinda weird see Cannavaro in Reserves.... and Mauro Tassotti should be in the Reserves also


Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:57 pm
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Well there's no reason to put him in first team as he wasn't a better defender than the ones who are in first team here..


Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:08 am
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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Well there's no reason to put him in first team as he wasn't a better defender than the ones who are in first team here..

I agree but if our standard of choice for all stars teams/nationals is how much players has been important for the team/national Cannavaro deserves more than Nesta to stay in first team, Nesta was better than Cannavaro but mainly cause injuries he never reached Fabio's performances in WC 2006.


Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:01 pm
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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Although I know most of you will hate me for that suggestion but IMO Andrea Pirlo has to be in first team. I'm not sure who he should replace (IMO Valentino Mazzola or Bulgarelli who were of course two of the greatest Italian players ever but didn't contribute anything important to the NT) but he has archieved so much with the NT so that he finally deserves a place here..



well, if Pirlo should be in, then Del Piero or Totti should be also in


Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:47 pm
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El Capo Del Cartel wrote:
gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Although I know most of you will hate me for that suggestion but IMO Andrea Pirlo has to be in first team. I'm not sure who he should replace (IMO Valentino Mazzola or Bulgarelli who were of course two of the greatest Italian players ever but didn't contribute anything important to the NT) but he has archieved so much with the NT so that he finally deserves a place here..



well, if Pirlo should be in, then Del Piero or Totti should be also in

Pirlo would deserve to stay in first team but there are a lot of midfielders who deserve it too.
Del Piero absolutely doesn't there are tons of forwards who played better than him with national team. Totti played better than Alex but not enough to deserve the first team.


Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:51 pm
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first team

IN Franco Causio

OUT Valentino Mazzola

IN Romeo Benetti

OUT Giacomo Bulgarelli


Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:38 pm
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Why no Pirlo in first team?


Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:21 pm
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I also think he could stay in first team but I don't know who can leave his place..


Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:08 am
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It's not easy to select only 23 players for these biggest national teams and it's impossible get everyone to agree.
We have to create this team to use them in PES so we can't choose 3-4 players in the same position.
Pirlo had probably the best performances in italian national team in the last 10 years but Italy had dozens of amazing players in his position and we can't say Pirlo is surely better than Antognoni, Rivera, etc so IMHO it's not a mistake not choose Pirlo in 23 squad.
The best playing system in italian history is Catenaccio and it needs two defensive midfielders, in first team we had only Tardelli.


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Well... selecting players for NT is a matter that i don't wanna be a part of it, but 27DONI72 says this:

27DONI72 wrote:
It's not easy to select only 23 players for these biggest national teams and it's impossible get everyone to agree.



Why only 23?


Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:31 pm
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23 is the squad for NTs... And I think It's a good choice to keep that "system" because this kind of All Stars team still being National Teams


Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:44 pm
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@ JeanMarc: I don't know why you're so angry. I only asked why Pirlo isn't in first team and you react as if that is a personal insult against you óÒ But you can calm down and stay in this forum, I won't post any bull shit stats & teams anymore ;)


Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:33 pm
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