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SPAIN ALL STARS



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Honours:

FIFA World Cup

Winners (1): 2010
Fourth place (1): 1950


UEFA European Championship

Winners (3): 1964, 2008, 2012
Runners-up (1): 1984


FIFA Confederations Cup

Runners-up (1): 2013
Third place (1): 2009



COACH: Vicente DEL BOSQUE

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The best ever Spanish players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Ricardo ZAMORA
Iker CASILLAS


DEFENDERS:

Joan SEGARRA
Ferran OLIVELLA
José Antonio CAMACHO
Rafael GORDILLO
Fernando HIERRO
Carles PUYOL
Sergio RAMOS


MIDFIELDERS:

Luis SUÁREZ
AMANCIO
PIRRI
LUIS ENRIQUE
Josep GUARDIOLA
XAVI Hernández
Andrés INIESTA


FORWARDS:

Fernando TORRES
Alfredo DI STÉFANO
Francisco GENTO
Carlos SANTILLANA
Emilio BUTRAGUEÑO
RAÚL González
David VILLA





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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

José Ángel IRIBAR
Luis ARCONADA
Andoni ZUBIZARRETA


DEFENDERS:

Jacinto QUINCOCES
Jesús GARAY
Feliciano RIVILLA
Isacio CALLEJA
MIGUELI
Antonio MACEDA
Miguel TENDILLO
CHENDO
Manuel SANCHÍS
Miguel Ángel NADAL
● Rafael ALKORTA
Albert FERRER
SERGI
Gerard PIQUÉ


MIDFIELDERS:

José María BELAUSTE
GONZALVO III
Antonio PUCHADES
José María ZÁRRAGA
Luis DEL SOL
Ignacio ZOCO
Jesús PEREDA
ADELARDO Rodríguez
● Juan Manuel ASENSI
Víctor MUÑOZ
Juan SEÑOR
Ricardo GALLEGO
MÍCHEL
José Mari BAKERO
Rafael Martín VÁZQUEZ
Gaizka MENDIETA
Juan Carlos VALERÓN
Xabi ALONSO
Cesc FÀBREGAS
David SILVA


FORWARDS:

Josep SAMITIER
Luis REGUEIRO
● Guillermo GOROSTIZA
Isidro LÁNGARA
Telmo ZARRA
CÉSAR
Ladislao KUBALA
● Piru GAÍNZA
Joaquín PEIRÓ
Luis ARAGONÉS
José Eulogio GÁRATE
Carles REXACH
● QUINI
Estanislao BASORA
● Jesús María SATRÚSTEGUI
JUANITO
Fernando MORIENTES






THE BEST EVER XI (by El Capo)

Captain: José Antonio Camacho

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GK: Zamora
SW: Hierro
CB: Puyol
RB: Segarra
LB: Camacho
DMF: Pirri
CMF: Xavi
CMF/AMF: Luis Suarez
SS: Raul
SS: Di Stefano
CF: Villa

Captain: José Antonio Camacho | Joan Segarra | Fernando Hierro
Short Free Kick: Fernando Hierro | David Villa | Xavi
Long Free Kick: Luis Suarez | Xavi | Fernando Hierro
Right Corner Kick: Luis Suarez | Xavi
Left Corner Kick: Luis Suarez | Xavi
Penalty Takers: Fernando Hierro | David Villa


ALTERNATIVE BEST EVER XI (by gurkenjoe93)


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GK ZAMORA
SW HIERRO
CB PUYOL
RB SEGARRA
LB CAMACHO ©
DMF PIRRI
CMF LUIS SUAREZ
SS/AMF DI STEFANO
RWF AMANCIO
LWF GENTO
CF VILLA

Captain: Jose Antonio Camacho | Joan Segarra | Fernando Hierro
Short Free Kick: Fernando Hierro | David Villa
Long Free Kick: Luis Suarez | Fernando Hierro
Right Corner Kick: Luis Suarez
Left Corner Kick: Luis Suarez
Penalty Takers: Fernando Hierro | David Villa

WORLD CHAMPION FORMATION

GK: Casillas
CB: Hierro
CB: Puyol
RB: Sergio Ramos
LB: Gordillo
DMF: Pirri
DMF: Guardiola
AMF: Xavi
AMF: Iniesta
SS: Villa
CF: Torres

Captain: Iker Casillas | Fernando Hierro | Pirri
Short Free Kick: Fernando Hierro | Xavi | David Villa
Long Free Kick: Fernando Hierro | Xavi | Josep Guardiola
Right Corner: Xavi | Josep Guardiola
Left Corner: Xavi | Josep Guardiola
Penalty: Fernando Hierro | David Villa


Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:33 pm
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Some crucial players of the 2008/2010/2012 teams like Casillas, Xavi and Iniesta should be added to at least the best 23


Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:53 am
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Curly wrote:
Some crucial players of the 2008/2010/2012 teams like Casillas, Xavi and Iniesta should be added to at least the best 23

There was already a discussion about this in the old forum, I agree with you but since Charrùan is the creator of this thread he has the last word and as he said he doesn't agree with our suggestions.
We can change this team in our option file ;)


Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:59 am
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Yeah kinda weird to see a country that has won 4 major trophy's and no single player of the teams that won 3 of them is present. For instance Kubala and Di Stefano are superior players to Xavi and Iniesta but they didn't win anything special so they shouldn't be in it. Like in Italy were Del Piero and Totti are superior to Rossi as a football player but Rossi was crucial in winning a WC and therefor he is rightfully in it


Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:12 pm
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I agree with you guys... But, I have to say something... If we add these three players in the team, who could go out?

I think thats why Charruan doesn't add them, because he have to quit another players and all of these players deserves be players of the first team... I'm from Spain, you know guys and I think only one player of the 23 in first team could be changed for one of these players suggested, is Míchel and in his place Xavi (or Iniesta if we take him from 2010 to 2013-14)

In my opinion, Xavi is the only one who deserves stay in first team... He is the team from last 8 years (not only Spain, Barcelona too, when he didn't play... the game of the teams were a shit). And, I like much more Iniesta (as we call him, The Spanish Zidane), but Xavi is the team, is like Pirlo with Italy since 2006 (for me, he should won the Ballon D'or in 2006 and not Cannavaro), Xavi is old right now, and Barcelona feel it, like the NT, right now it is difficult to win another major trophy because he is old, when he decide to retire himself we'll miss him...

About Casillas I have doubts, because he could go in instead of Arconada but about this Charruan has the last word, as Doni said. ;)


Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:29 pm
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Perhaps you are right about which midfielders to replace but do you think that Kubala should be in the team? Isn't it more because if Kubala (same about di Stefano) should be in a team it should be Spain? In my opinion it should be the other way round: who should be in the team instead of in what team should a great player be.


Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:44 pm
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Well, Kubala and Di Stéfano played too much time for Spain NT, and Di Stefano was the Top Scorer of Spain NT until Butragueño broke that record...

About Kubala I'm not sure, he was one of the best players in Spain NT... but Di Stéfano, for me deserves that place in first team


Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:03 pm
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first team

IN Carles Puyol

OUT Jacinto Quincoces

IN David Villa

OUT Ladislao Kubala

IN Iker Casillas

OUT Luis Arconada

IN Sergio Ramos

OUT Jesus Garay

IN Xavi

OUT Estanislao Basora




reserves

IN David Silva

OUT Jesus Maria Pereda

IN Juan Mata

OUT Jose Luis Caminero






I can't describe how poor I feel making those changes, like never before in my life...


Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:05 pm
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First: I apologize that I post something in this thread.
Second: Why Mata in reserves? His goal against Italy (when Spain was already leading 3:0) in the EC final of 2012 was the only "important" thing he ever did for Spain and he wasn't even a starter in this tournament..
I'd rather have kept Pereda in reserves as he was a key player of the 1964 EC winning squad and also a better player than Mata..


Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:17 pm
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I agree with Gurkenjoe, I think Mata is useless also Caminero was far better and important than him.

I'm not sure Sergio Ramos deserves first team I'd keep Quincoces.

IMHO Iniesta should be in first team I think he has been the most important player among Xavi of the last years for Spain, I'd put him in first team and Villa in reserves.


Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:40 pm
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Well, Villa is the top scorer of Spain NT... Although lot of players are and were better than him, I think he deserves stay in first team for that.

Agree with Iniesta, I can say, even more important than Xavi (in Euro 2012, Xavi didn't play good as 2010 and 2008), I suggest Iniesta instead of Michel, I don't think to another player who could be replaced by Iniesta...


About Sergio Ramos, I think he deserves stay in first team. (He is in the first XI always since 2006/07, being one of the best players in all titles of Spain in this "Golden years")


I don't know about Quincoces, he should be in the first team... Instead of Segarra (Segarra played 25 matches, playing well but no more... And Quincoces played 25 matches, and he was the best player of the FIFA WC 1934, playing for Spain... I should put Quincoces in first team again, and Segarra out)

The other changes are good for me ;)


Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:27 pm
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Linked every player found on the forum, and fixed the order on the best 23 & the reserves list

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The best ever Spanish players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Ricardo ZAMORA
Iker CASILLAS


DEFENDERS:

Joan SEGARRA
Ferran OLIVELLA
José Antonio CAMACHO
Rafael GORDILLO
Fernando HIERRO
Carles PUYOL
Sergio RAMOS


MIDFIELDERS:

Luis SUÁREZ
AMANCIO
PIRRI
MÍCHEL
LUIS ENRIQUE
Josep GUARDIOLA
XAVI Hernández


FORWARDS:

Telmo ZARRA
Alfredo DI STÉFANO
Francisco GENTO
Carlos SANTILLANA
Emilio BUTRAGUEÑO
RAÚL González
David VILLA





_____________________________________________________________



RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

José Ángel IRIBAR
Luis ARCONADA
Andoni ZUBIZARRETA


DEFENDERS:

Jacinto QUINCOCES
Jesús GARAY
Feliciano RIVILLA
Isacio CALLEJA
MIGUELI
● Antonio MACEDA
● Miguel TENDILLO
CHENDO
Manuel SANCHÍS
Miguel Ángel NADAL
● Rafael ALKORTA
Albert FERRER
SERGI


MIDFIELDERS:

José María BELAUSTE
● GONZALVO III
Antonio PUCHADES
José María ZÁRRAGA
Luis DEL SOL
● Ignacio ZOCO
● ADELARDO Rodríguez
● Juan Manuel ASENSI
● Víctor MUÑOZ
● Juan SEÑOR
● Ricardo GALLEGO
José Mari BAKERO
● Rafael Martín VÁZQUEZ
● Gaizka MENDIETA
Juan Carlos VALERÓN
Xabi ALONSO
Andrés INIESTA
David SILVA
● Juan MATA


FORWARDS:

Josep SAMITIER
Luis REGUEIRO
● Guillermo GOROSTIZA
Isidro LÁNGARA
CÉSAR
Ladislao KUBALA
● Piru GAÍNZA
Joaquín PEIRÓ
Luis ARAGONÉS
José Eulogio GÁRATE
Carles REXACH
● QUINI
Estanislao BASORA
● Jesús María SATRÚSTEGUI
JUANITO
Fernando MORIENTES
Fernando TORRES


Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:15 am
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I made a mistake on the David Silva link, it actually links to Esteban Granero. Here is the correct link: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=5887


Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:01 pm
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Fixed.


Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:50 pm
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Updated the formation, with now Di Stéfano acting like a CMF & Raúl like a SS.


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