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Author:  Pes Edit [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Croatia All Stars

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CROATIA ALL STARS



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Honours:

FIFA World Cup

Runner-Up (1): 2018
Third place (2): 1998, 2022

UEFA Nations League

Runner-Up (1): 2023

COACH: Tomislav IVIĆ

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The best ever Croatian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Franjo GLASER
Vladimir BEARA


DEFENDERS:

Ivan HORVAT
Tomislav CRNKOVIĆ
Dragan HOLCER
Ivan BULJAN
Velimir ZAJEC
Robert JARNI
Darijo SRNA


MIDFIELDERS:

Zlatko ČAJKOVSKI
Jurica JERKOVIĆ
Ivan ŠURJAK
Zvonimir BOBAN
Robert PROSINEČKI
Luka MODRIĆ
Ivan RAKITIĆ


FORWARDS:

Ivan HITREC
Frane MATOŠIĆ
Stjepan BOBEK
Bernard VUKAS
Branko ZEBEC
Josip SKOBLAR
Davor ŠUKER





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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Dragutin VRĐUKA
Franjo ŠOŠTARIĆ
Dražen LADIĆ


DEFENDERS:

● Bernard HÜGL
Ivan JAZBINŠEK
Miroslav BROZOVIĆ
Bruno BELIN
Mladen RAMLJAK
Vilson DŽONI
Luka PERUZOVIĆ
Slaven BILIĆ
Robert KOVAČ
Josip ŠIMUNIĆ


MIDFIELDERS:

Danijel PREMERL
Gustav LECHNER
Ante ŽANETIĆ
Željko PERUŠIĆ
Rudi BELIN
Dražen MUŽINIĆ
Ivan GUDELJ
Aljoša ASANOVIĆ
Ivan PERIŠIĆ
● Marcelo BROZOVIĆ


FORWARDS:

Leo LEMEŠIĆ
● August LEŠNIK
Franjo WÖLFL
Zvonimir CIMERMANČIĆ
Željko ČAJKOVSKI
Dražan JERKOVIĆ
Slaven ZAMBATA
Zlatko KRANJČAR
Alen BOKŠIĆ
Mario MANDŽUKIĆ





THE BEST EVER XI

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GK BEARA
CB HORVAT
CB HOLCER
RB SRNA
LB CRNKOVIĆ
DMF ČAJKOVSKI
CMF MODRIĆ ©
AMF BOBAN
RWF VUKAS
LWF ZEBEC
CF/SS BOBEK

Captain: Stjepan Bobek | Luka Modrić | Zvonimir Boban
Short Free Kick: Darijo Srna | Luka Modrić
Long Free Kick: Luka Modrić | Darijo Srna | Zvonimir Boban
Left Corner: Branko Zebec | Luka Modrić
Right Corner: Darijo Srna | Zvonimir Boban
Penalty: Stjepan Bobek | Darijo Srna | Luka Modrić





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POST-INDEPENDENCE CROATIA ALL STARS



COACH: Zlatko DALIĆ

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The best ever Croatian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Dražen LADIĆ
● Dominik LIVAKOVIĆ


DEFENDERS:

Slaven BILIĆ
Igor ŠTIMAC
Robert JARNI
Dario ŠIMIĆ
Robert KOVAČ
Josip ŠIMUNIĆ
Darijo SRNA


MIDFIELDERS:

Aljoša ASANOVIĆ
Zvonimir BOBAN
Mario STANIĆ
Robert PROSINEČKI
Zvonimir SOLDO
Luka MODRIĆ
Ivan RAKITIĆ
Ivan PERISIĆ
● Marcelo BROZOVIĆ


FORWARDS:

Davor ŠUKER
Alen BOKŠIĆ
Goran VLAOVIĆ
Ivica OLIĆ
Mario MANDŽUKIĆ





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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

● Tomislav BUTINA
● Stipe PLETIKOSA
● Danijel SUBAŠIĆ


DEFENDERS:

Nikola JERKAN
Igor TUDOR
● Stjepan TOMAS
● Boris ŽIVKOVIĆ
● Vedran ĆORLUKA
● Dejan LOVREN
● Ivan STRINIĆ
● Domagoj VIDA
● Šime VRSALJKO
● Joško GVARDIOL


MIDFIELDERS:

Milan RAPAIĆ
Niko KOVAČ
● Jurica VRANJEŠ
● Marko BABIĆ
● Niko KRANJČAR
● Danijel PRANJIĆ
● Ognjen VUKOJEVIĆ
● Milan BADELJ
● Mateo KOVAČIĆ
● Nikola VLASIĆ


FORWARDS:

Igor CVITANOVIĆ
Davor VUGRINEC
● Boško BALABAN
● Mladen PETRIĆ
Dado PRŠO
● Ivan KLASNIĆ
● EDUARDO
● Nikola KALINIĆ
● Andrej KRAMARIĆ
● Bruno PETKOVIĆ





THE BEST EVER XI

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GK LADIĆ
CB BILIĆ
CB ŠIMUNIĆ
RB SRNA
LB JARNI
DMF BROZOVIĆ
CMF MODRIĆ ©
CMF RAKITIĆ
AMF BOBAN
CF ŠUKER
CF MANDŽUKIĆ

Captain: Luka Modrić | Zvonimir Boban | Darijo Srna
Short Free Kick: Darijo Srna | Luka Modrić
Long Free Kick: Luka Modrić | Darijo Srna | Zvonimir Boban
Left Corner: Luka Modrić | Darijo Srna | Zvonimir Boban
Right Corner: Darijo Srna | Zvonimir Boban
Penalty: Davor Šuker | Darijo Srna | Luka Modrić

Author:  Ninja'd [ Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

Linked every player found on the forum...

Spoiler: show
The best ever Croatian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Franjo GLASER
Vladimir BEARA


DEFENDERS:

Ivan JAZBINŠEK
Ivan HORVAT
Branko ZEBEC
Tomislav CRNKOVIĆ
Dragan HOLCER
Ivan BULJAN
Slaven BILIĆ
Robert JARNI


MIDFIELDERS:

Zlatko ČAJKOVSKI
Stjepan BOBEK
Jurica JERKOVIĆ
Ivica ŠURJAK
Aljoša ASANOVIĆ
Zvonimir BOBAN
Robert PROSINEČKI


FORWARDS:

Ivan HITREC
Franjo WÖLFL
Frane MATOŠIĆ
Bernard VUKAS
Josip SKOBLAR
Davor ŠUKER





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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Dragutin VRĐUKA
Zvonko MONSIDER
Dražen LADIĆ


DEFENDERS:

● Ivica GAJER
Ernest DUBAC
Miroslav BROZOVIĆ
Bruno BELIN
Vlatko MARKOVIĆ
Mladen RAMLJAK
Vilson DŽONI
Luka PERUZOVIĆ
Velimir ZAJEC
Zoran VULIĆ
Nikola JERKAN
Igor ŠTIMAC
Dario ŠIMIĆ
Robert KOVAČ
Josip ŠIMUNIĆ
Darijo SRNA


MIDFIELDERS:

Danijel PREMERL
Gustav LECHNER
● Mirko KOKOTOVIĆ
● Branko PLEŠE
● Krešo PUKŠEC
● Željko MATUŠ
● Ante ŽANETIĆ
Petar RADAKOVIĆ
Željko PERUŠIĆ
Stjepan LAMZA
Rudi BELIN
Dražen MUŽINIĆ
Zlatko KRANJČAR
Marko MLINARIĆ
Ivan GUDELJ
Zvonimir SOLDO
Niko KOVAČ
Mario STANIĆ
Luka MODRIĆ


FORWARDS:

● Emil PERŠKA
● Leo LEMEŠIĆ
Aleksandar ŽIVKOVIĆ
● August LEŠNIK
● Milan ANTOLKOVIĆ
Ratko KACIAN
● Zvonimir CIMERMANČIĆ
Željko ČAJKOVSKI
Dražan JERKOVIĆ
Andrija ANKOVIĆ
Slaven ZAMBATA
Alen BOKŠIĆ
Goran VLAOVIĆ
Milan RAPAIĆ
Ivica OLIĆ
● EDUARDO

Author:  artemds [ Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

Buljan is wrong linked.

Author:  dariush99 [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

modric and mandzukic should be in first team.
They became the runners-up of the World Cup

Author:  Danny [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

This will be my first post on this forum,but certainly not the last :)
I'm from Serbia, and I'm very interested in classic football, I'm especially interested in the Balkan region, and I'll try to be as objective and constructive as possible in my suggestions.
As I said, even though I'm from Serbia, I think that more talented footballers come from Croatia, that's a fact, as shown by the recent results, so I think that the best 23 from Croatia should be carefully selected, and here, sorry, that's not the case.I will try to explain item by item which changes should be made, and I apologize in advance for the thoroughness because the team definitely needs to be updated.
- Luka Modrić, I don't know if I need to explain anything further :), we all know who he is and what he is, in exchange for Asanović, he was not the best midfielder even in his generation
- Mario Mandžukić is not even in the reserves, that's ridiculous, the most important striker in recent Croatian football history, contributed to winning the vice-champion title in Russia, instead of Franjo Wölfl, he can be in Dinamo's best team, I don't think he has a place in the 23
- Dražan Jerković, one of the most prominent Croatian strikers, very important for the national team in 1962, and the best scorer then, the best striker in that part of Europe in 60s, instead of Matošić, I look at it in the context of time and importance, very important for Hajduk, but I am still not convinced that is better than Jerković
- Ivan Perišić, probably the best winger that Croatia had, also very important in winning the second and third place at the World Cup, instead of Jurica Jerković, sorry about this, but I didn't even hear about this guy until I came to this forum, do what you want, to me, Perišić is much more important for Croatian football
- Darijo Srna, the best right back of Croatia without question, held that side strong, both in the national team and in the clubs where he played, and because of the balance in the team he should definitely be in the 23, instead of Jazbinšek, really never heard of him , as far as I understood, he played for Croatian nazi Puppet state, then went to Canada, he can hardly take the place of one Srna
- Velimir Zajec, the legendary Zeko, how could he not be among the 23, one of the best defensive/DM in Balkans 80s, all-rounder, significant career, instead Ivan Buljan,in the same rank, only in my opinion Zeko is better and more significant
- Ivan Rakitić, another one of the most important footballers in the recent Croatian football history, a nice and smooth career, maybe next to Modrić the best midfielder, instead of Bilić, this guy is not considered among the best defenders even in his homeland, and there are too many defenders if you haven't noticed Bilić certainly not a place among the best 23, I was looking for the team to be as well balanced as possible

And that's it. I hope for constructive analyses, the only thing I'm not completely sure about Perišić...

And one more thing, I think that when we choose the best, we should look at both contexts and how much they really are the best and how important they were then for the national team and find a perfect balance between the two.
Example: Dejan "Rambo" Petković is probably the best midfield player that Serbia had, he played 9 games for the national team, almost all of them friendlies, he was simply not called to play for the national team, so he has no place among the best, even though he certainly is one of the best

Author:  Mikerdead39 [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

Danny wrote:
This will be my first post on this forum,but certainly not the last :)
I'm from Serbia, and I'm very interested in classic football, I'm especially interested in the Balkan region, and I'll try to be as objective and constructive as possible in my suggestions.
As I said, even though I'm from Serbia, I think that more talented footballers come from Croatia, that's a fact, as shown by the recent results, so I think that the best 23 from Croatia should be carefully selected, and here, sorry, that's not the case.I will try to explain item by item which changes should be made, and I apologize in advance for the thoroughness because the team definitely needs to be updated.
- Luka Modrić, I don't know if I need to explain anything further :), we all know who he is and what he is, in exchange for Asanović, he was not the best midfielder even in his generation
- Mario Mandžukić is not even in the reserves, that's ridiculous, the most important striker in recent Croatian football history, contributed to winning the vice-champion title in Russia, instead of Franjo Wölfl, he can be in Dinamo's best team, I don't think he has a place in the 23
- Dražan Jerković, one of the most prominent Croatian strikers, very important for the national team in 1962, and the best scorer then, the best striker in that part of Europe in 60s, instead of Matošić, I look at it in the context of time and importance, very important for Hajduk, but I am still not convinced that is better than Jerković
- Ivan Perišić, probably the best winger that Croatia had, also very important in winning the second and third place at the World Cup, instead of Jurica Jerković, sorry about this, but I didn't even hear about this guy until I came to this forum, do what you want, to me, Perišić is much more important for Croatian football
- Darijo Srna, the best right back of Croatia without question, held that side strong, both in the national team and in the clubs where he played, and because of the balance in the team he should definitely be in the 23, instead of Jazbinšek, really never heard of him , as far as I understood, he played for Croatian nazi Puppet state, then went to Canada, he can hardly take the place of one Srna
- Velimir Zajec, the legendary Zeko, how could he not be among the 23, one of the best defensive/DM in Balkans 80s, all-rounder, significant career, instead Ivan Buljan,in the same rank, only in my opinion Zeko is better and more significant
- Ivan Rakitić, another one of the most important footballers in the recent Croatian football history, a nice and smooth career, maybe next to Modrić the best midfielder, instead of Bilić, this guy is not considered among the best defenders even in his homeland, and there are too many defenders if you haven't noticed Bilić certainly not a place among the best 23, I was looking for the team to be as well balanced as possible

And that's it. I hope for constructive analyses, the only thing I'm not completely sure about Perišić...

And one more thing, I think that when we choose the best, we should look at both contexts and how much they really are the best and how important they were then for the national team and find a perfect balance between the two.
Example: Dejan "Rambo" Petković is probably the best midfield player that Serbia had, he played 9 games for the national team, almost all of them friendlies, he was simply not called to play for the national team, so he has no place among the best, even though he certainly is one of the best



Welcome, man! :D
You make some very good points, I find it hard to disagree. I believe that is one of the selections that would be updated soon.

Author:  Danny [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

The best ever Croatian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

● Franjo GLASER
● Vladimir BEARA

DEFENDERS:

● Velimir ZAJEC
● Ivan HORVAT
● Branko ZEBEC
● Tomislav CRNKOVIĆ
● Dragan HOLCER
● Darijo SRNA
● Robert JARNI

MIDFIELDERS:

● Zlatko ČAJKOVSKI
● Stjepan BOBEK
● Ivan PERIŠIĆ
● Ivica ŠURJAK
● Luka MODRIĆ
● Zvonimir BOBAN
● Robert PROSINEČKI
● Ivan RAKITIĆ

FORWARDS:

● Ivan HITREC
● Dražan JERKOVIĆ
● Mario MANDŽUKIĆ
● Bernard VUKAS
● Josip SKOBLAR
● Davor ŠUKER

Suggestion for the best 23

Author:  FanisJK7 [ Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

@Danny Could you maybe make two separate teams: sth like "Croatian Yugoslavia" & one like "modern Croatia"? Personally I've expressed my opposition to these merged teams, as I don't find much relation between the eras, among other technical stuff. How do you reflect on this?

Author:  Danny [ Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

I will do,i must do some research for that,I will do it as soon as possible

Author:  Interista93 [ Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

FanisJK7 wrote:
"Croatian Yugoslavia" & one like "modern Croatia"? Personally I've expressed my opposition to these merged teams, as I don't find much relation between the eras, among other technical stuff.

This is actually what's been chosen for such teams. One version that includes players from all eras and one with only post-independence players.

Author:  Bonaz [ Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

I agree with Fanis. however, for Croatia, but also for all the national teams born from the dissolution of a federation, such as Yugoslavia, USSR or Czechoslovakia, I too would divide the roster between Croatian players before and after the dissolution.

Author:  Danny [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

Until 1991.

GOALKEEPERS:

● Franjo GLASER
● Vladimir BEARA

DEFENDERS:

● Velimir ZAJEC
● Ivan HORVAT
● Branko ZEBEC
● Tomislav CRNKOVIĆ
● Dragan HOLCER
● Ivan BULJAN
● Bruno BELIN

MIDFIELDERS:

● Zlatko ČAJKOVSKI
● Stjepan BOBEK
● Danijel PREMERL
● Ivica ŠURJAK
● Gustav LECHNER
● Rudi BELIN
● Ivan GUDELJ
● Jurica JERKOVIĆ

FORWARDS:

● Ivan HITREC
● Dražan JERKOVIĆ
● Frane MATOŠIĆ
● Bernard VUKAS
● Josip SKOBLAR
● Franjo WÖLFL

After independence

GOALKEEPERS:

● Stipe PLETIKOSA
● Danijel SUBAŠIĆ

DEFENDERS:

● Dario ŠIMIĆ
● Robert KOVAČ
● Josip ŠIMUNIĆ
● Dejan LOVREN
● Šime VRSALJKO
● Darijo SRNA
● Robert JARNI

MIDFIELDERS:

● Aljoša ASANOVIĆ
● Marcelo BROZOVIĆ
● Ivan PERIŠIĆ
● Mateo KOVAČIĆ
● Luka MODRIĆ
● Zvonimir BOBAN
● Robert PROSINEČKI
● Ivan RAKITIĆ
● Zvonimir SOLDO

FORWARDS:

● EDUARDO da Silva
● Andrej KRAMARIĆ
● Mario MANDŽUKIĆ
● Ivica OLIĆ
● Davor ŠUKER

Reserves :

GOALKEEPERS:

● Dražen LADIĆ
● Dominik LIVAKOVIĆ

DEFENDERS:

● Igor ŠTIMAC
● Slaven BILIĆ
● Igor TUDOR

MIDFIELDERS:

● Mario STANIĆ
● Niko KOVAČ
● Niko KRANJČAR

FORWARDS:

● Dado PRŠO
● Alen BOKŠIĆ
● Goran VLAOVIĆ
● Milan RAPAIĆ

It turned out that it is very difficult to choose the best 23 after independence, there are many good midfield players, and as far as the defense is concerned, they are all almost equal, I tried to choose according to the influence on the national team, but you did not make a mistake to put anyone from the reserves in the first team, maybe also personal preference may play a role,i'm talking about defense

Author:  El Capo [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

You can already add Gvardiol into the reserves, doubt any croatian defender was ever that recognized during an official tournament.

Author:  Danny [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

I agree, Joško is a huge talent. If you notice, throughout the history of Croatian football, the worst part was the defense, especially from independence, Guardiol can change that, if he develops in the right direction, the future will show

Author:  FanisJK7 [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Croatia All Stars

@Danny Good work. I can't tell rn if I agree with all the selections, but I'm sure it won't be much different. Composition-wise let me tell you two options: either keep the traditional 23-man plan, move ahead filling the reserves at the same number (could it be 10 men for each position) & move Perisic to FWs for better layout (7 DFs - 8 MFs - 6 FWs) or go for a bigger number at the first team but same for each position (example: 2-8-8-8) & smaller at the reserves but same again (example: 1-5-5-5).
@Interista93 Most relative cases haven't been updated though.
@Bonaz You can also check my suggestion and reasoning at: Board Index > Rules > Suggestions for forum improvement. I think these teams look settled down this way. Pending for the admins' final word ultimately.

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