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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1549
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:11 am |
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edge2412
Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:23 pm Posts: 20
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Small mistake. Hilario still has portuguese flag here.
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:32 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3384 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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So the key here is: African players of african ethnicity that played for European teams and beyond?
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:30 pm |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1549
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Yep, only players that played for or were called up to the national team, and were born and have ethnic roots in Africa. Because there were quite a lot of guys like Just Fontaine, Gentile and Christian Lopez that we’re born in North Africa but have no connections to Africa otherwise. I wanted to keep it somewhat limited which is why you see a quite large drop off in quality in the reserves. Also, special shoutout to Rio Mavuba, who was born on a boat off the coast of Angola and therefore has “born at sea” on his birth certificate
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:26 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3384 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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I'd personally replace Hilário for Evra, because if you are gonna play 4-3-1-2, you'll need energetic SBs that can go up and down constantly to provide an passing option that Hilário wouldn't simply make due to his more conservative defensive style.
Any defensive "deficiency" that Evra had, he can cover it with his pace and stamina + Vieira and Makélélé can effectively stay deep to provide defensive cover on the left flank.
Edit: You can add in your formation: Desailly and Vieira to go up at freekicks and corners.
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:03 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2481
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What about José Aguas and Costa Pereira? After all they both spent at least 20 years of their life in Africa. Or did they miss out because they come from families with a colonial background? Btw, now as I think about it, Emmanuel Aznar, Abdelkader Ben Bouali, Mario Zatelli, Émile Zermani and Jean Bastien could all be considered here. And I wouldn't replace Hilario with Evra here, Hilario certainly wasn't inferior to Evra.
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:12 pm |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1549
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Eh, I mean even the top teams rarely use two attacking full backs and Ayache is already quite attacking, think of Abidal at Barcelona. Plus Vieira has Box to Box and Marauding cards, and high green AGG, so he’ll be pushing forward a lot. There’s so much stamina in that midfield that they can probably dominate the entire middle third of the pitch while still providing plenty of support in both the first third and final third.
Also IMO Hilário is just better than Evra, even in game (Hilário is always amazing for me, even though his stats aren’t extraordinary or anything).
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:24 pm |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1549
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Yes, I didn’t count Aguas and Costa Pereira because their background is strictly Portuguese, they were African by birth only.
I missed Aznar, Ben Bouali and Zermani but were Bastien and Zatelli of African descent? I think Zatelli was an Italian who was born in Algeria and it’s hard to tell with Bastien. I used Transfermarkt to make this so I’m sure they’ve missed a few, their records have a few mistakes (listing Nani’s place of birth as Cape Verde, and listing Bamako as part of France, therefore putting Tigana’s country of birth as France).
I also left out the players that played for the FLN team like Zitouni and Ben Tifour.
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:14 pm |
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