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Author: | Charrúan [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:08 pm ] |
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SOUTH AMERICA All Stars GOALKEEPERS: Amadeo CARRIZO Ladislao MAZURKIEWICZ Ubaldo FILLOL DEFENDERS: José NASAZZI Nílton SANTOS Djalma SANTOS José SANTAMARÍA Héctor CHUMPITAZ Carlos ALBERTO Elías FIGUEROA Daniel PASSARELLA MIDFIELDERS: José Leandro ANDRADE Obdulio VARELA ZIZINHO DIDI RIVELINO Teófilo CUBILLAS ZICO FALCÃO SÓCRATES Diego MARADONA Enzo FRANCESCOLI Fernando REDONDO FORWARDS: Héctor SCARONE José Manuel MORENO Juan Alberto SCHIAFFINO GARRINCHA PELÉ TOSTÃO ROMÁRIO Gabriel BATISTUTA RONALDO ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ RESERVES: GOALKEEPERS: Roque MÁSPOLI Sergio LIVINGSTONE GILMAR José Luis CHILAVERT DEFENDERS: DOMINGOS DA GUIA Guillermo DELGADO Luis EYZAGUIRRE Mauro RAMOS Silvio MARZOLINI Julio MELÉNDEZ Roberto PERFUMO Atilio ANCHETA Luís PEREIRA EDINHO Darío PEREYRA Oscar RUGGERI CAFÚ Carlos GAMARRA Paolo MONTERO Roberto CARLOS Roberto AYALA Javier ZANETTI MIDFIELDERS: Luis MONTI Antonio SASTRE Schubert GAMBETTA Néstor ROSSI Víctor ANDRADE ZITO Eladio ROJAS Omar SÍVORI Luis CUBILLA GÉRSON Ricardo BOCHINI ADEMIR DA GUIA Pedro ROCHA César CUETO Carlos VALDERRAMA Diego SIMEONE RIVALDO Juan Román RIQUELME RONALDINHO FORWARDS: Arthur FRIEDENREICH Pedro PETRONE Bernabé FERREYRA Teodoro FERNÁNDEZ LEÔNIDAS Arsenio ERICO Ángel LABRUNA Adolfo PEDERNERA ADEMIR Valeriano LÓPEZ Walter GÓMEZ JULINHO Alfredo DI STÉFANO Leonel SÁNCHEZ Alberto SPENCER Luis ARTIME JAIRZINHO Willington ORTIZ Mario KEMPES CARECA Iván ZAMORANO Lionel MESSI THE BEST EVER XI:
------------------------------GK. MAZURKIEWICZ--------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------CB. SANTAMARÍA--------SWP. FIGUEROA--------------------------- -RB. DJALMA SANTOS------------------------------------------LB. NÍLTON SANTOS------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------DMF. VARELA (c)--------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------CMF. DIDI--------------------------- ----------------------AMF. MARADONA------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------SS. SCHIAFFINO------------------ -----RWF. GARRINCHA------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------CF/SS. PELÉ----------------------------------------- Captains: Odulio Varela | Elías Figueroa | Diego Maradona Short Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Didí | Pelé Long Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Didí Right Corner: Garrincha | Diego Maradona | Juan Alberto Schiaffino Left Corner: Diego Maradona | Juan Alberto Schiaffino | Nílton Santos Penalty: Diego Maradona | Pelé |
Author: | El Capo [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: All Time South America All Stars |
gurkenjoe93 wrote: Maradona as captain? That's a pretty bad joke, right? Varela was one of the greatest captains in the history of the game (by far the greatest from South America), a real leader on the pitch, if those two would have played in the same team, Maradona surely wouldn't have been captain. Captains should be Varela, Figueroa and then Maradona.. Not actually, aren't you ignoring that Maradona (aside from Barcelona i think, and earlier with his NT) was always the captain with his respectives teams right? If he wasn't a "real" leader on the pitch, then i'm pretty sure that at least he wouldn't have been nominated as the skipper earlier with Argentinos Juniors and Boca Juniors before he left to Europe.. Updated captains though . |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: All Time South America All Stars |
gurkenjoe93 wrote: I didn't want to question Maradona's qualities as a captain (that's why I put him as 3rd captain) but IMO those other two guys or Daniel Passarella surely were better captains/leaders than Maradona ever was Well danielito passarella is so good leader that almost get in bankruptcy to River Plate Also i only see three real leaders : chilavert , maradona and cafu |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:29 pm ] |
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Author: | El Capo [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:31 pm ] |
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He was a leader on the pitch... |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:05 pm ] |
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gurkenjoe93 wrote: Wow, I have no words for such kind of trolling but anyway, I'll explain it to you: as a footballer on the pitch, Passarella was the ultimate leader, much bigger than any of those you mentioned. He inspired his teammates and always gave everything.. Maybe leadership is regarded differently in South America, but from what I regard as leadership and fighting spirit, Passarella, Figueroa, Varela and Nasazzi were clearly superior to Cafu or Maradona.. First is not trolling man take it easy , i dont want a BANgarang , also i explain this Daniel passarella was good is not doubt of this , but diego has equal or superior value as leader , he always support his teammates , in all sense only see the matches of wc in 1986, 1990 , matches in Napoli , a entire city following a man , also the argentinians put him like a god. For be honest i never seen play nasazzi only textbook , i cannot put my trust in that because i never seen he play , also varela , only media are the clips of Maracanazo and some videos of Peñarol Museum haves , Figueroa never seens to matches , Passarella yes i seens him and yes he is a leader but equal or below to diego. Leaders in Europe: Zlatan , Lahm , Puyol , Raul , Casillas , Xavi ,etc.... PD: Gurkenjoen is somenthing personal with diego or me ? because you support menotti (enemy until the dead with bilardo and diego) , support Passarella uncondintionaly (other enemy of diego severals fights in longs of both their careers ) , insult diego ( for be a drug customer and cheater). Spoiler: show |
Author: | El Capo [ Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: All Time South America All Stars |
TheGreatRossonero wrote: gurkenjoe93 wrote: Wow, I have no words for such kind of trolling but anyway, I'll explain it to you: as a footballer on the pitch, Passarella was the ultimate leader, much bigger than any of those you mentioned. He inspired his teammates and always gave everything.. Maybe leadership is regarded differently in South America, but from what I regard as leadership and fighting spirit, Passarella, Figueroa, Varela and Nasazzi were clearly superior to Cafu or Maradona.. First is not trolling man take it easy , i dont want a BANgarang , also i explain this Daniel passarella was good is not doubt of this , but diego has equal or superior value as leader , he always support his teammates , in all sense only see the matches of wc in 1986, 1990 , matches in Napoli , a entire city following a man , also the argentinians put him like a god. For be honest i never seen play nasazzi only textbook , i cannot put my trust in that because i never seen he play , also varela , only media are the clips of Maracanazo and some videos of Peñarol Museum haves , Figueroa never seens to matches , Passarella yes i seens him and yes he is a leader but equal or below to diego. Leaders in Europe: Zlatan , Lahm , Puyol , Raul , Casillas , Xavi ,etc.... PD: Gurkenjoen is somenthing personal with diego or me ? because you support menotti (enemy until the dead with bilardo and diego) , support Passarella uncondintionaly (other enemy of diego severals fights in longs of both their careers ) , insult diego ( for be a drug customer and cheater). Spoiler: show It's what people call "point of view", everyone has one |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:46 pm ] |
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This team needs to be better balanced, there is no Bolivian or Ecuadorian player. |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:09 pm ] |
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Yeah but all needs a place , i don't see why the uruguayan Walter Gomez is better that Victor Agustin Ugarte , one of the greatest or maybe the greatest bolivian player of all time. Or why Simeone is better than Etcheverry (yeah i know the spell of el cholo , but at 100% el Diablo is better , also counting the difference beetwen positions). Surinam probably don't deserve be take in count because they are part of the Concacaf not the Conmebol. |
Author: | El Capo [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: All Time South America All Stars |
That's the idea Rosso, the quality of the players + something respectable done with an south american club or with their NT (That's why you also don't see Messi who's talent alone is enough to deserve to be named here but then he hasn't played in a south american club or won something with Argentina, but that's another matter). |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:15 pm ] |
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Mmm....ok. |
Author: | Albiceleste [ Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:44 pm ] |
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Why Santamaria is so well considered in this team? He is in the starting XI, but he did more in the european football than in the south american football. Only a 4th place with Uruguay in 1954, while Nasazzi was the best and the winner in 1930. He won 5 uruguayan championships, but he also won 5 spanish championships and 4 europeans cup (achievements in europe>>>achievements in south america). If Di Stéfano isn't in the team (2 argentinian primera division, 3 colombian championships and 1 Copa America), Santamaria should not be either. At least not in the first team. The duo Passarella (as a sweeper) and Figueroa (as a CB) would be the most representative of the south american football. |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Sat May 28, 2022 9:04 am ] |
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What about add Roberto Carlos in the startes, so the team can have two lef backs. Messi is already the topscorer of Argentina NT and won a Copa América. I think he earn his spot among the starters. I would replaced Sócrates for him. Also, I believe Neymar already have a spot among the reserves. |
Author: | jcklein [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: All Time South America All Stars |
Bola Clássica wrote: What about add Roberto Carlos in the startes, so the team can have two lef backs. Messi is already the topscorer of Argentina NT and won a Copa América. I think he earn his spot among the starters. I would replaced Sócrates for him. Also, I believe Neymar already have a spot among the reserves. I agree with Roberto Carlos. Messi needs absolutely no justification to be on the first team. Why he is in reserves is beyond me. I think Neymar might even have space on the first team too. Ronaldinho too. |
Author: | dariush99 [ Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:22 pm ] |
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oh my goodness!!! messi is not in first team... |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: All Time South America All Stars |
Guys, are you all kidding, right? How can you all think that the greatest scorer, assistant, and caps for Argentina, Argentine player with the most caps, goals and assists in the World Cup, 2 times World Cup finalist, Copa America champion and runner up in 3 other editions, voted best player at the 2014 World Cup who will probably be voted best in 2022 as well could even think of having a spot in the starting 32? It has to be a joke, obviously Cubillas, Sócrates or Tostão deserve more than him. |
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