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SOUTH AMERICA All Stars



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GOALKEEPERS:

:ARG: Amadeo CARRIZO
:URU: Ladislao MAZURKIEWICZ
:ARG: Ubaldo FILLOL


DEFENDERS:

:URU: José NASAZZI
:BRA: Nílton SANTOS
:BRA: Djalma SANTOS
:URU: José SANTAMARÍA
:PER: Héctor CHUMPITAZ
:BRA: Carlos ALBERTO
:CHI: Elías FIGUEROA
:ARG: Daniel PASSARELLA


MIDFIELDERS:

:URU: José Leandro ANDRADE
:URU: Obdulio VARELA
:BRA: ZIZINHO
:BRA: DIDI
:BRA: RIVELINO
:PER: Teófilo CUBILLAS
:BRA: ZICO
:BRA: FALCÃO
:BRA: SÓCRATES
:ARG: Diego MARADONA
:URU: Enzo FRANCESCOLI
:ARG: Fernando REDONDO


FORWARDS:

:URU: Héctor SCARONE
:ARG: José Manuel MORENO
:URU: Juan Alberto SCHIAFFINO
:BRA: GARRINCHA
:BRA: PELÉ
:BRA: TOSTÃO
:BRA: ROMÁRIO
:ARG: Gabriel BATISTUTA
:BRA: RONALDO



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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

:URU: Roque MÁSPOLI
:CHI: Sergio LIVINGSTONE
:BRA: GILMAR
:PAR: José Luis CHILAVERT


DEFENDERS:

:BRA: DOMINGOS DA GUIA
:PER: Guillermo DELGADO
:CHI: Luis EYZAGUIRRE
:BRA: Mauro RAMOS
:ARG: Silvio MARZOLINI
:PER: Julio MELÉNDEZ
:ARG: Roberto PERFUMO
:URU: Atilio ANCHETA
:BRA: Luís PEREIRA
:BRA: EDINHO
:URU: Darío PEREYRA
:ARG: Oscar RUGGERI
:BRA: CAFÚ
:PAR: Carlos GAMARRA
:URU: Paolo MONTERO
:BRA: Roberto CARLOS
:ARG: Roberto AYALA
:ARG: Javier ZANETTI


MIDFIELDERS:

:ARG: Luis MONTI
:ARG: Antonio SASTRE
:URU: Schubert GAMBETTA
:ARG: Néstor ROSSI
:URU: Víctor ANDRADE
:BRA: ZITO
:CHI: Eladio ROJAS
:ARG: Omar SÍVORI
:URU: Luis CUBILLA
:BRA: GÉRSON
:ARG: Ricardo BOCHINI
:BRA: ADEMIR DA GUIA
:URU: Pedro ROCHA
:PER: César CUETO
:COL: Carlos VALDERRAMA
:ARG: Diego SIMEONE
:BRA: RIVALDO
:ARG: Juan Román RIQUELME
:BRA: RONALDINHO


FORWARDS:

:BRA: Arthur FRIEDENREICH
:URU: Pedro PETRONE
:ARG: Bernabé FERREYRA
:PER: Teodoro FERNÁNDEZ
:BRA: LEÔNIDAS
:PAR: Arsenio ERICO
:ARG: Ángel LABRUNA
:ARG: Adolfo PEDERNERA
:BRA: ADEMIR
:PER: Valeriano LÓPEZ
:URU: Walter GÓMEZ
:BRA: JULINHO
:ARG: Alfredo DI STÉFANO
:CHI: Leonel SÁNCHEZ
:ECU: Alberto SPENCER
:ARG: Luis ARTIME
:BRA: JAIRZINHO
:COL: Willington ORTIZ
:ARG: Mario KEMPES
:BRA: CARECA
:CHI: Iván ZAMORANO
:ARG: Lionel MESSI



THE BEST EVER XI:

------------------------------GK. MAZURKIEWICZ---------------------------------
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----------------------CB. SANTAMARÍA--------SWP. FIGUEROA---------------------------
-RB. DJALMA SANTOS------------------------------------------LB. NÍLTON SANTOS------
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--------------------------DMF. VARELA (c)---------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------CMF. DIDI---------------------------
----------------------AMF. MARADONA-------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------SS. SCHIAFFINO------------------
-----RWF. GARRINCHA-------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------CF/SS. PELÉ-----------------------------------------

Captains: Odulio Varela | Elías Figueroa | Diego Maradona
Short Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Didí | Pelé
Long Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Didí
Right Corner: Garrincha | Diego Maradona | Juan Alberto Schiaffino
Left Corner: Diego Maradona | Juan Alberto Schiaffino | Nílton Santos
Penalty: Diego Maradona | Pelé


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As people have not been reported for this:

Di Stefano Out, Cubillas In..

Updated Formation..


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El Capo wrote:
As people have not been reported for this:

Di Stefano Out, Cubillas In..

Updated Formation..

Maradona as captain? That's a pretty bad joke, right? Varela was one of the greatest captains in the history of the game (by far the greatest from South America), a real leader on the pitch, if those two would have played in the same team, Maradona surely wouldn't have been captain. Captains should be Varela, Figueroa and then Maradona..


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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Maradona as captain? That's a pretty bad joke, right? Varela was one of the greatest captains in the history of the game (by far the greatest from South America), a real leader on the pitch, if those two would have played in the same team, Maradona surely wouldn't have been captain. Captains should be Varela, Figueroa and then Maradona..


Not actually, aren't you ignoring that Maradona (aside from Barcelona i think, and earlier with his NT) was always the captain with his respectives teams right?

If he wasn't a "real" leader on the pitch, then i'm pretty sure that at least he wouldn't have been nominated as the skipper earlier with Argentinos Juniors and Boca Juniors before he left to Europe..

Updated captains though ;) .


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El Capo wrote:
gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Maradona as captain? That's a pretty bad joke, right? Varela was one of the greatest captains in the history of the game (by far the greatest from South America), a real leader on the pitch, if those two would have played in the same team, Maradona surely wouldn't have been captain. Captains should be Varela, Figueroa and then Maradona..


Not actually, aren't you ignoring that Maradona (aside from Barcelona i think, and earlier with his NT) was always the captain with his respectives teams right?

El Capo wrote:
If he wasn't a "real" leader on the pitch, then i'm pretty sure that at least he wouldn't have been nominated as the skipper earlier with Argentinos Juniors and Boca Juniors before he left to Europe...

I didn't want to question Maradona's qualities as a captain (that's why I put him as 3rd captain) but IMO those other two guys or Daniel Passarella surely were better captains/leaders than Maradona ever was ;)


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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
I didn't want to question Maradona's qualities as a captain (that's why I put him as 3rd captain) but IMO those other two guys or Daniel Passarella surely were better captains/leaders than Maradona ever was ;)

Well danielito passarella is so good leader that almost get in bankruptcy to River Plate
Also i only see three real leaders : chilavert , maradona and cafu


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He was a leader on the pitch...


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TheGreatRossonero wrote:
gurkenjoe93 wrote:
I didn't want to question Maradona's qualities as a captain (that's why I put him as 3rd captain) but IMO those other two guys or Daniel Passarella surely were better captains/leaders than Maradona ever was ;)

Well danielito passarella is so good leader that almost get in bankruptcy to River Plate
Also i only see three real leaders : chilavert , maradona and cafu

Wow, I have no words for such kind of trolling but anyway, I'll explain it to you: as a footballer on the pitch, Passarella was the ultimate leader, much bigger than any of those you mentioned. He inspired his teammates and always gave everything..
Maybe leadership is regarded differently in South America, but from what I regard as leadership and fighting spirit, Passarella, Figueroa, Varela and Nasazzi were clearly superior to Cafu or Maradona..


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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Wow, I have no words for such kind of trolling but anyway, I'll explain it to you: as a footballer on the pitch, Passarella was the ultimate leader, much bigger than any of those you mentioned. He inspired his teammates and always gave everything..
Maybe leadership is regarded differently in South America, but from what I regard as leadership and fighting spirit, Passarella, Figueroa, Varela and Nasazzi were clearly superior to Cafu or Maradona..

First is not trolling man take it easy , i dont want a BANgarang :mrgreen: , also i explain this Daniel passarella was good is not doubt of this , but diego has equal or superior value as leader , he always support his teammates , in all sense only see the matches of wc in 1986, 1990 , matches in Napoli , a entire city following a man , also the argentinians put him like a god.
For be honest i never seen play nasazzi only textbook :| , i cannot put my trust in that because i never seen he play , also varela :| , only media are the clips of Maracanazo and some videos of Peñarol Museum haves , Figueroa never :?: seens to matches , Passarella yes i seens him and yes he is a leader ;) but equal or below to diego. :D

Leaders in Europe: Zlatan , Lahm , Puyol , Raul , Casillas , Xavi ,etc....


PD: Gurkenjoen is somenthing personal with diego or me ? :? because you support menotti (enemy until the dead with bilardo and diego) , support Passarella uncondintionaly (other enemy of diego severals fights in longs of both their careers ) , insult diego ( for be a drug customer and cheater).

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TheGreatRossonero wrote:
gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Wow, I have no words for such kind of trolling but anyway, I'll explain it to you: as a footballer on the pitch, Passarella was the ultimate leader, much bigger than any of those you mentioned. He inspired his teammates and always gave everything..
Maybe leadership is regarded differently in South America, but from what I regard as leadership and fighting spirit, Passarella, Figueroa, Varela and Nasazzi were clearly superior to Cafu or Maradona..

First is not trolling man take it easy , i dont want a BANgarang :mrgreen: , also i explain this Daniel passarella was good is not doubt of this , but diego has equal or superior value as leader , he always support his teammates , in all sense only see the matches of wc in 1986, 1990 , matches in Napoli , a entire city following a man , also the argentinians put him like a god.
For be honest i never seen play nasazzi only textbook :| , i cannot put my trust in that because i never seen he play , also varela :| , only media are the clips of Maracanazo and some videos of Peñarol Museum haves , Figueroa never :?: seens to matches , Passarella yes i seens him and yes he is a leader ;) but equal or below to diego. :D

Leaders in Europe: Zlatan , Lahm , Puyol , Raul , Casillas , Xavi ,etc....


PD: Gurkenjoen is somenthing personal with diego or me ? :? because you support menotti (enemy until the dead with bilardo and diego) , support Passarella uncondintionaly (other enemy of diego severals fights in longs of both their careers ) , insult diego ( for be a drug customer and cheater).

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It's what people call "point of view", everyone has one ;)


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TheGreatRossonero wrote:
PD: Gurkenjoen is somenthing personal with diego or me ? :? because you support menotti (enemy until the dead with bilardo and diego) , support Passarella uncondintionaly (other enemy of diego severals fights in longs of both their careers ) , insult diego ( for be a drug customer and cheater).

Where do I support him unconditionally? I only said he was superior to Maradona regarding fighting spirit, leadership and mentality and that's a fact. I didn't write anywhere that he was a better player than Maradona or questioned Maradona's qualities as a leader..
Tbh, I respect Maradona as a player (5th greatest player of all time) but his behaviour on and off the pitch was sometimes just shameful and retarded..


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This team needs to be better balanced, there is no Bolivian or Ecuadorian player.


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TheGreatRossonero wrote:
This team needs to be better balanced, there is no Bolivian or Ecuadorian player.

What has this to do with balance? There are also no guys from Suriname, Guyana and Venezuela because the criteria for this team was the quality and not nationality of the players..
Btw, Spencer (Ecuador) is already in the reserves..


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Yeah but all needs a place , i don't see why the uruguayan Walter Gomez is better that Victor Agustin Ugarte , one of the greatest or maybe the greatest bolivian player of all time.

Or why Simeone is better than Etcheverry :shock: (yeah i know the spell of el cholo , but at 100% el Diablo is better , also counting the difference beetwen positions).

Surinam probably don't deserve be take in count because they are part of the Concacaf not the Conmebol.


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That's the idea Rosso, the quality of the players + something respectable done with an south american club or with their NT (That's why you also don't see Messi who's talent alone is enough to deserve to be named here but then he hasn't played in a south american club or won something with Argentina, but that's another matter).


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