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Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 pm Posts: 125
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Team created by a collaborative effort of 27DONI72, Milos, StuartBannigan and gurkenjoe93URUGUAY ALL STARS Honours: • FIFA World CupWinners (2): 1930, 1950 Fourth place (3): 1954, 1970, 2010• FIFA Confederations CupFourth place (2): 1997, 2013• Copa AméricaWinners (15): 1916, 1917, 1920, 1923, 1924, 1926, 1935, 1942, 1956, 1959, 1967, 1983, 1987, 1995, 2011 Runners-up (6): 1919, 1927, 1939, 1941, 1989, 1999 Third place (8): 1921, 1922, 1929, 1937, 1947, 1953, 1957, 2004 Fourth place (6): 1945, 1946, 1955, 1975, 2001, 2007COACH: Óscar TABÁREZThe best ever Uruguayan players 23-man squadGOALKEEPERS:● Roque MÁSPOLI ● Ladislao MAZURKIEWICZDEFENDERS:● José NASAZZI ● Víctor RODRÍGUEZ ANDRADE ● Schubert GAMBETTA ● William MARTÍNEZ ● José SANTAMARÍA ● Paolo MONTERO ● Diego GODÍNMIDFIELDERS:● Ángel ROMANO ● José Leandro ANDRADE ● Álvaro GESTIDO ● Obdulio VARELA ● Juan Alberto SCHIAFFINO ● Pedro ROCHA ● Enzo FRANCESCOLIFORWARDS:● Héctor SCARONE ● Pedro PETRONE ● Oscar MÍGUEZ ● Alcides GHIGGIA ● Julio ABBADIE ● Diego FORLÁN ● Luis SUÁREZ_____________________________________________________________ RESERVES:GOALKEEPERS:
● Cayetano SAPORITI ● Andrés MAZZALI ● Rodolfo RODRÍGUEZ
DEFENDERS:
● Alfredo FOGLINO ● Ernesto MASCHERONI ● Eusebio TEJERA ● Matías GONZÁLEZ ● Juan MUJICA ● Darío PEREYRA ● Hugo DE LEÓN ● Diego LUGANO ● Maxi PEREIRA ● Álvaro PEREIRA
MIDFIELDERS:
● Lorenzo FERNÁNDEZ ● Julio PÉREZ ● Javier AMBROIS ● Néstor GONÇALVES ● Luis CUBILLA ● Julio CÉSAR CORTÉS ● Julio MONTERO CASTILLO ● Rubén PAZ ● Pablo BENGOECHEA ● Diego PÉREZ
FORWARDS:
● José PIENDIBENE ● Isabelino GRADÍN ● Santos URDINARÁN ● Pedro CEA ● Héctor CASTRO ● Severino VARELA ● Carlos BORGES ● Fernando MORENA ● Rubén SOSA ● Edinson CAVANITHE BEST EVER XIGK MAZURKIEWICZ CB NASAZZI CB SANTAMARÍA RB ANDRADE LB RODRÍGUEZ ANDRADE DMF VARELA © AMF FRANCESCOLI AMF SCHIAFFINO RWF GHIGGIA SS SCARONE CF PETRONE Captain: Obdulio Varela | José Nasazzi | Enzo Francescoli Short Free Kick: Enzo Francescoli | Juan Alberto Schiaffino Long Free Kick: Juan Alberto Schiaffino | Enzo Francescoli Right Corner: Juan Alberto Schiaffino | Enzo Francescoli Left Corner: Juan Alberto Schiaffino | Enzo Francescoli Penalty: Héctor Scarone | Enzo Francescoli
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3386 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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I don't think Cavani is that good to be named here (despite the heavy vintage this NT possess).
Uruguay never mounted a genuine opportunity to win the World Cup since like 1954, if Cavani finally delivers some awesome performances in the last 3 games (very hard now, due to his recent injury), i'll strongly support his inclusion in the 23-men squad.
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Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:41 pm |
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StuartBannigan
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I’d wait until the tournament ends, although I do think Godin already deserves a place over Ancheta. One thing though, isn’t Luís Cubilla considered one of Uruguay’s best players? I would have expected him to be in the first team here...
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Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:28 pm |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1631
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Updated.
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Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:11 am |
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nahu999
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:20 pm Posts: 1
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Don't you think Victor Esparrago deserves a place in this selection?
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Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:09 pm |
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FanisJK7
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:59 pm Posts: 147 Location: Greece
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Arevalo Rios could easily get the nod as well
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Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:36 am |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 476
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Maybe the Uruguay AS should be reviewed in order to fulfill all positions on the field.
I just realize that this team doesn't have any sideback of origin and has two right wingers and no left winger.
Maybe make a formatiom with three center-back can solve it partially.
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Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:18 pm |
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27DONI72
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Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:44 pm Posts: 989
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Bola Clássica wrote: Maybe the Uruguay AS should be reviewed in order to fulfill all positions on the field.
I just realize that this team doesn't have any sideback of origin and has two right wingers and no left winger.
Maybe make a formatiom with three center-back can solve it partially. Uruguay always played with 4 defenders in his history. Josè Leandro Andrade was something like Dani Alves even if often he is registered as a defensive midfielders but this is wrong because he played on the side, yes he could also play as modern mezzala but just because he was amazing and all around player, his main position in modern football would be side-backs, same for Victor Andrade, Gambetta, Attilio Ferraris and all those players who played as lateral mediano in Metodo. It's a common wrong "football traduction" from Metodo positions to modern ones: Metodo fullbacks (Rosetta, Nasazzi, Rava, ecc.) -> CB Metodo lateral mediano (those named before) -> RB-LB Metodo central mediano (Monti, Andreolo, Fernandez, Smistik, ecc.) -> DM Metodo mezzala (Scarone, Meazza, Ferrari, ecc.) -> AMF/SS You should think about Metodo like a modern 4-3-3 more or less. A lot of players of this era are wrong con Pes forums because of this wrong traduction position. Sorry for my english but I hope it's clear
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Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:19 am |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 476
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27DONI72 wrote: Bola Clássica wrote: Maybe the Uruguay AS should be reviewed in order to fulfill all positions on the field.
I just realize that this team doesn't have any sideback of origin and has two right wingers and no left winger.
Maybe make a formatiom with three center-back can solve it partially. Uruguay always played with 4 defenders in his history. Josè Leandro Andrade was something like Dani Alves even if often he is registered as a defensive midfielders but this is wrong because he played on the side, yes he could also play as modern mezzala but just because he was amazing and all around player, his main position in modern football would be side-backs, same for Victor Andrade, Gambetta, Attilio Ferraris and all those players who played as lateral mediano in Metodo. It's a common wrong "football traduction" from Metodo positions to modern ones: Metodo fullbacks (Rosetta, Nasazzi, Rava, ecc.) -> CB Metodo lateral mediano (those named before) -> RB-LB Metodo central mediano (Monti, Andreolo, Fernandez, Smistik, ecc.) -> DM Metodo mezzala (Scarone, Meazza, Ferrari, ecc.) -> AMF/SS You should think about Metodo like a modern 4-3-3 more or less. A lot of players of this era are wrong con Pes forums because of this wrong traduction position. Sorry for my english but I hope it's clear Yes. This discussion regarding past formations and their nowadays equivalences is always interesting. The old tatics, as the 2-3-5 and the following WM and MM varied a lot according to the country, mainly regarding the style of play. Before football gloabalization we used to see more differences than now (at least, the differences took longer) For example, in South America football, Uruguay and Argentina developed the short pass instead of long passes before Brazil. The powerfull Uruguay National Team (Olympic champions) used to be compared to a kind of chess game in Brazil. I thought that in 50 final, Uruguay and Brazil used to play a mix of 2-3-5 and WM. but I wasnt sure about Uruguay (you mentioned they played with 4 defender, so they played with a 4-2-4?). In Brazil, Bigode were the third man on the left defense or on the left midfield? Thats is something nobody answer here. Augusto on the right for example was never considered a midfielder, so he could only be a center back (being 2 on the defense) or a right back (being 3 on the defense). I believe the left side was frequently used more advanced. This way it explain what some people call in Brazil the diagonals formations. I had this little debate with Interista when I put Hermogenes of America AS as a right back instead of midfielder. Well, I think those position only get more clear when the fourth defender (the second center-back) finally appears but others discussion still remains. For example, I heard many people calling the old position inside forward as an attacking midfielder and many people calling than as an second striker. I guess it depends a bit on the players caractheristics. I know a bit when those changes happened in Brazil but it is very tough for me to say about others countries, as Uruguay. Anyway, thanks for your response, this discuss is always great to have with people from other nations.Our perspectives changes a lot.
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Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:58 pm |
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27DONI72
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In 1950 Uruguay played Metodo like in 1930 so something like a 4-3-3 (two mezzale were more offensive in 1930 for sure). Brazil played Diagonal, that was the conjunction between Sistema and 4-2-4, Bigode was a side-back, he marked the right-wing but of course he was a little bit more offensive the right-back, Augusto marked center-forward. Defensive midfielders and Mezzale played in diagonal, one DM was pure defensive (and later went back to defense and create a 4 line) and the other one was a playmaker. One AM was an offensive playmaker and the other one was a second striker or "punta de lança". Two wings, the left one was usually more offensive.
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Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:57 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 476
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Very interesting explanation about the old tatics, a little bit different than what I already read, but looks indeed more detailed and makes totally sense. It is a different view though. I particulary never considered a 4-3-3 talking about old times but I understood that you see a similar distribution on the field but convertimg it differentely for nowadays.
Maybe the tatical names are a little bit different than we have here in Brazil too. Considering Brazil is going bad tactically over the last years, maybe an italian view about the past is more studied, being more accurated.
Anyway, would be nice to have a post about this topic here in the forum.
Brazil has some interesting changes on the past regarding tatics, we could discuss it. Ayrton Moreira's Cruzeiro, Brazil 58 (Vicente Feola) and Brazil 70 (Zagallo) are good examples.
Also, it would be nice to see those explanations inside the players stats, adding the side back position for those you mentioned.
Anyway, the two right wingers and no left winger is something that could be here or is it covered somehow?
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Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:42 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2526
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Bola Clássica wrote: Anyway, the two right wingers and no left winger is something that could be here or is it covered somehow? There's Romano who played on various positions and was Uruguay's LWF in their 1924 gold medal wining squad and you have Forlan who can cover that position. Seems enough to me if we consider that the formation is without a left winger.
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Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:19 pm |
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