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ARGENTINA ALL STARS



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Honours:

FIFA World Cup

Winners (2): 1978, 1986
Runners-up (3): 1930, 1990, 2014


FIFA Confederations Cup

Winners (1): 1992
Runners-up (2): 1995, 2005


Copa América

Winners (14): 1921, 1925, 1927, 1929, 1937, 1941, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1955, 1957, 1959, 1991, 1993
Runners-up (14): 1916, 1917, 1920, 1923, 1924, 1926, 1935, 1942, 1959, 1967, 2004, 2007, 2015, 2016
Third place (4): 1919, 1956, 1963, 1989
Fourth place (2): 1922, 1987



COACH: Carlos Salvador BILARDO

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The best ever Argentinian players 23-man squad



GOALKEEPERS:

Amadeo CARRIZO
Ubaldo FILLOL


DEFENDERS:

Carlos SOSA
Silvio MARZOLINI
Roberto PERFUMO
Daniel PASSARELLA
Alberto TARANTINI
Oscar RUGGERI
Javier ZANETTI


MIDFIELDERS:

Antonio SASTRE
José Manuel MORENO
Adolfo PEDERNERA
Osvaldo ARDILES
Diego MARADONA
Fernando REDONDO
Diego SIMEONE


FORWARDS:

Ángel LABRUNA
Félix LOUSTAU
Omar CORBATTA
Luis ARTIME
Mario KEMPES
Gabriel BATISTUTA
Lionel MESSI





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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Américo TESORIERE
Rogelio DOMÍNGUEZ
Antonio ROMA


DEFENDERS:

Ludovico BIDOGLIO
José SALOMÓN
Norberto YÁCONO
Pedro DELLACHA
José RAMOS DELGADO
Rafael ALBRECHT
Quique WOLFF
Jorge OLGUÍN
José Luis BROWN
Roberto SENSINI
José CHAMOT
Roberto AYALA
Juan Pablo SORÍN
Walter SAMUEL


MIDFIELDERS:

Luis MONTI
Ernesto LAZZATTI
Néstor ROSSI
Eliseo MOURIÑO
Ernesto GRILLO
Omar SÍVORI
Antonio RATTIN
Ermindo ONEGA
Miguel BRINDISI
Beto ALONSO
Ricardo BOCHINI
Ricardo GIUSTI
Juan BARBAS
Jorge BURRUCHAGA
Matías ALMEYDA
Ariel ORTEGA
Juan Sebastián VERÓN
Juan Román RIQUELME
Esteban CAMBIASSO
Javier MASCHERANO


FORWARDS:

Alberto OHACO
Manuel SEOANE
Guillermo STÁBILE
Manuel FERREIRA
Roberto CHERRO
Bernabé FERREYRA
Francisco VARALLO
Carlos PEUCELLE
● Herminio MASANTONIO
● Enrique GARCÍA
Vicente DE LA MATA
René PONTONI
Rinaldo MARTINO
Norberto MÉNDEZ
José SANFILIPPO
René HOUSEMAN
Daniel BERTONI
Jorge VALDANO
Claudio CANIGGIA
Hernán CRESPO





THE BEST EVER XI

Captain: Daniel Passarella

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Captains: Daniel Passarella | Diego Maradona | Oscar Ruggeri | Félix Losteau
Short Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Gabriel Batistuta
Long Free Kick: Daniel Passarella | Diego Maradona
Right Corner: Diego Maradona | Fernando Redondo
Left Corner: Antonio Sastre | Diego Maradona
Penalty: Diego Maradona | Gabriel Batistuta | Mario Kempes | Daniel Passarella

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ALTERNATIVE BEST EVER XI
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:18 pm
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Don't forget about Ever "I lose every ball in the midfield" Banega :mrgreen:


Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:00 am
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Hahaha :lol: I don't want to remember the last Copa América final. Higuaín missing AGAIN, Agüero doing NOTHING, Di María injured, Biglia looking like a drunk man and Banega playing like a lady. It's like a nightmare that never ends. I feel sad for Mascherano, he played great, he doesn't deserve this defeat.


Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:59 am
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Albiceleste wrote:
For me, the coach has to be Bilardo. Why no Menotti? Because Bilardo made better results than him and, I repeat, the 1978 team was a very good team but they had a "little help" from the military government.

How often do you want to repeat that? In 1986 Argentina only reached the WC final because that little coke addicted guy played handball instead of football. In 1990 Argentina wasn't even better than most of their opponents, not only in the final but also against Italy, Yugoslavia and Brazil (not to forget the weak performances in the group stage). But yeah, Bilardo is the greatest..
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Talking about Messi, he deserves a place in the team, I expressed my opinion in a previous message. And if you talk about the finals, he didn't play EXCELLENT but he played well, not bad. The only opportunity that he missed was a shot in the World Cup Final but it wasn't an easy shot. He's always the only attacking force in Argentina because Higuaín, Aguero and Palacio didn't do anything and missed the few opportunities that we had.

He played well in the WC final? Except for that one chance before the break (that Boateng cleared before the line) and the FK in the last minute of overtime (that he shot over the goal), he was in Boateng's pocket for the whole game :lol:


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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
How often do you want to repeat that? In 1986 Argentina only reached the WC final because that little coke addicted guy played handball instead of football. In 1990 Argentina wasn't even better than most of their opponents, not only in the final but also against Italy, Yugoslavia and Brazil (not to forget the weak performances in the group stage). But yeah, Bilardo is the greatest..
its a came insult to diego because he said that messi its not a leader , but its true messi is not , he is the best player , but he dont have that attribute that transmitte his talent to his partners, like recently published a maradona audio : we win the WC against germany , we dont play against chile, (dont underrate the God because and addiction and yeah with all that stuff he win a WC and a god of fottball),and other things the robery in football still going barca vs chelsea 3 penaltys that dont give to chelsea
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He played well in the WC final? Except for that one chance before the break (that Boateng cleared before the line) and the FK in the last minute of overtime (that he shot over the goal), he was in Boateng's pocket for the whole game :lol:
thats its the only point that i agreed with , he is a great footbaler and maybe the best in history , but for Argentina NT he dont give anithing and maybe he dont deserve even be here in reserves

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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
How often do you want to repeat that? In 1986 Argentina only reached the WC final because that little coke addicted guy played handball instead of football. In 1990 Argentina wasn't even better than most of their opponents, not only in the final but also against Italy, Yugoslavia and Brazil (not to forget the weak performances in the group stage). But yeah, Bilardo is the greatest..

How often? Only two times is enough. And please respect Maradona, he made the greatest performance ever by a footballer in a World Cup, like it or not. The goal with the hand is not a excuse. It's the referee's fault, he didn't see that hand. Or did you expect that, in that moment, Maradona says: "¡Don`t count the goal! I made it whit my hand, sorry."? Maradona wasn't stupid, he wanted to win like everybody in this world.

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He played well in the WC final? Except for that one chance before the break (that Boateng cleared before the line) and the FK in the last minute of overtime (that he shot over the goal), he was in Boateng's pocket for the whole game :lol:

In the final Messi made a regular match. Not a great match like the three matches in the group phase but a regular match. He didn't deserve the Golden Ball in that World Cup but for me he was one of the best five players of that World Cup.


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Albiceleste wrote:
How often? Only two times is enough. And please respect Maradona, he made the greatest performance ever by a footballer in a World Cup, like it or not. The goal with the hand is not a excuse. It's the referee's fault, he didn't see that hand. Or did you expect that, in that moment, Maradona says: "¡Don`t count the goal! I made it with my hand, sorry."? Maradona wasn't stupid, he wanted to win like everybody in this world.

Fabio Cannavaro, 20 years later disagree with this :mrgreen: , but people may ignore this just because he played in HD and also 'cause he was a defender :roll:


How comes that just because "only" Maradona was at full strentgh, Bilardo wasn't a "good" coach?

Then, all the coaches that we consider "legends" aren't great anymore because they directed several world class players during their prime along the team that they trained (see Herrera's players with Inter, Guardiola with both Barcelona, Bayern and now City, Capello with Milan, Juve, Real Madrid, etc; Ferguson with United, let alone Mourinho with Porto, Inter, Madrid, Chelsea to more information).


Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:30 am
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The point is: Menotti can't be the coach here because the Argentinian government "helped" the team reach the final?
On the other hand it's okay that Bilardo is coach here with a team that went into the final only because Maradona cheated? Yeah, seems logical. But my posts here aren't counted anyway. I mean, I'm from Europe, so my opinion can't be worth the same as your opinions..
Greatest performance ever in a WC? No, absolutely not. Cruyff in 1974 was better than Maradona in 1986, same goes for Eusebio in 1966 or Garrincha in 1962..


Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:08 am
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The thread for the couch is like a racing , turning around and round , only put the best coach , that wins most important titles, if we keep in that way to put excuses.
we can narrate , the calciopoli titles of juve , the chelsea barca 2008-09, the panama vs mexico in the concacaf, the codesal mistakes back in final in Italy 90,
the titles of madrid maded by franco , the hand of god back in 86, the 93 minutes aggregated back in lisboa final 2014.
you know the football is that the titles are they , you can no reject that , is milan have 7 ucl , and madrid 11 , we cannot do anithyng, put bilardo and menotti , they have to be that the couchs of iceland in the euro :mrgreen:

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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
The point is: Menotti can't be the coach here because the Argentinian government "helped" the team reach the final?
On the other hand it's okay that Bilardo is coach here with a team that went into the final only because Maradona cheated? Yeah, seems logical. But my posts here aren't counted anyway. I mean, I'm from Europe, so my opinion can't be worth the same as your opinions..
Greatest performance ever in a WC? No, absolutely not. Cruyff in 1974 was better than Maradona in 1986, same goes for Eusebio in 1966 or Garrincha in 1962..


Lol, It's not that it doesn't count, but you've got to see it from an Argentine perspective..

I mean, it's not a secret that they (or all of the football's nations superpowers) would change several Confederations-Euros/Copa America in exchage for another World Cup.

It's still a game on since in that match, six minutes later after that incident, the "greatest goal in WC history" happened..So it mean a draw :mrgreen:


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Why Nery Pumpido is not here ?

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What do you think about replacing Simeone? Mascherano did a lot for the national team. Yes, I know that Simeone won 2 Copas América, but I think that would be unfair to only consider the "winners". Mascherano played 1 World Cup Final (leading the team to the final and making a crucial tackle to Robben in semis) and 4 Copa América Finals. Also he is the second most capped player with 136 matches.
By the way, Pipo Rossi is another great choice. He was an amazing player and won 2 Copas América, but he didn't play too much in the national team.


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Seems legit, but tbh i don't give a shit for Masche.
But the arguments are worth to be taken in count.

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:06 pm
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Haha, I know that River fans don't like him very much. But for Argentina he always gave his 100% and was crucial in the last tournaments. Now a lot of stupid sport journalists are criticizing him, but in 2014 they loved him. Sometimes, here in Argentina, people don't have memory.


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What i don't understand is why La Fiera Ferreyra is here instead of Leopoldo Luque.


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