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Author: | El Capo [ Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: F.C. Internazionale All Stars |
Nothing else to be added i guess. |
Author: | bemeo2006 [ Thu May 07, 2020 4:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: F.C. Internazionale All Stars |
I wonder why Samuel is in the first team i know he have 9 season for inter and be a important player of UEFA Champion team. but he played less than 20 games in serie A and 30 games in total almost every season. why not cordoba, ferri or maicon? players have long career for inter, always in the first team and won many trophy. p/s: sorry for my lack of knowledge of inter's history and my bad english. thank you |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: F.C. Internazionale All Stars |
I'm a little impressed to see Zanetti out of the 11 starters. I'm not an Internazionale expert, but I believe that, based on the data, we can make a change - even because Zanetti was a very versatile player -. As much as he is bigger than Bergomi (The 2 have basically the same club time, but Zanetti played more games and won MUCH more) I'm not in favor of taking Bergomi out of this team. I would remove Oriali to put Zanetti on the team, as it is worth remembering that he also played in that position at Inter a few times. I don't think the comparison needs to be made, but I will do it: Zanetti has 19 years of Inter against 14 of Oriali. Zanetti: 858 games x Oriali: 392. Titles earned by each Zanetti: Serie A: 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10 Coppa Italia: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10, 2010–11 Italian Supercoppa: 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010 UEFA Champions League: 2009–10 UEFA Cup: 1997–98 FIFA Club World Cup: 2010 Oriali: Serie A: 1970–71, 1979–80 Coppa Italia 1977–78, 1981–82 Based on that, I suggest: Zanetti in, Oriali out. |
Author: | gurkenjoe93 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:16 am ] |
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Mikerdead39 wrote: I'm a little impressed to see Zanetti out of the 11 starters. I'm not an Internazionale expert, but I believe that, based on the data, we can make a change - even because Zanetti was a very versatile player -. As much as he is bigger than Bergomi (The 2 have basically the same club time, but Zanetti played more games and won MUCH more) I'm not in favor of taking Bergomi out of this team. I would remove Oriali to put Zanetti on the team, as it is worth remembering that he also played in that position at Inter a few times. I don't think the comparison needs to be made, but I will do it: Zanetti has 19 years of Inter against 14 of Oriali. Zanetti: 858 games x Oriali: 392. Zanetti bigger than Bergomi, next joke please. Seriously, what's even the point of making such statements? Not even mentioning that you suggest to take Oriali out of the best XI who was much better DMF than Zanetti ever was. Zanetti played in midfield when his performances were already declining, while Oriali was one of the best DMFs in Europe at his peak, something that Zanetti never was.. Edit: The only change that should be made here is Brehme instead of Cordoba, don't know why the latter was even added to first team here.. |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:27 am ] |
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gurkenjoe93 wrote: Mikerdead39 wrote: I'm a little impressed to see Zanetti out of the 11 starters. I'm not an Internazionale expert, but I believe that, based on the data, we can make a change - even because Zanetti was a very versatile player -. As much as he is bigger than Bergomi (The 2 have basically the same club time, but Zanetti played more games and won MUCH more) I'm not in favor of taking Bergomi out of this team. I would remove Oriali to put Zanetti on the team, as it is worth remembering that he also played in that position at Inter a few times. I don't think the comparison needs to be made, but I will do it: Zanetti has 19 years of Inter against 14 of Oriali. Zanetti: 858 games x Oriali: 392. Zanetti bigger than Bergomi, next joke please. Seriously, what's even the point of making such statements? Not even mentioning that you suggest to take Oriali out of the best XI who was much better DMF than Zanetti ever was. Zanetti played in midfield when his performances were already declining, while Oriali was one of the best DMFs in Europe at his peak, something that Zanetti never was.. Edit: The only change that should be made here is Brehme instead of Cordoba, don't know why the latter was even added to first team here.. ok, maybe I exaggerated the claim about Zanetti being bigger than Bergomi, but that's not the point. The point is that the criteria don't seem to me to fit with the proposal of an All Stars team. the statement "Oriali out of the best XI who was much better DMF than Zanetti ever was" takes more into account technical criteria than size in the club. If Zanetti is scheduled as a Midfielder among the 23, I see no reason not to take advantage of the player's versatility to make the change. Furthermore, this is not the only possible change, but I saw that it is only the most viable comparing idolatry by the club. I had also thought of pulling Bergomi into the middle of defense and putting Zanetti on the Right, but the CBs that are there are multi champions from a very strong season. |
Author: | M Ace [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 am ] |
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gurkenjoe93 wrote: Mikerdead39 wrote: I'm a little impressed to see Zanetti out of the 11 starters. I'm not an Internazionale expert, but I believe that, based on the data, we can make a change - even because Zanetti was a very versatile player -. As much as he is bigger than Bergomi (The 2 have basically the same club time, but Zanetti played more games and won MUCH more) I'm not in favor of taking Bergomi out of this team. I would remove Oriali to put Zanetti on the team, as it is worth remembering that he also played in that position at Inter a few times. I don't think the comparison needs to be made, but I will do it: Zanetti has 19 years of Inter against 14 of Oriali. Zanetti: 858 games x Oriali: 392. Zanetti bigger than Bergomi, next joke please. Seriously, what's even the point of making such statements? Not even mentioning that you suggest to take Oriali out of the best XI who was much better DMF than Zanetti ever was. Zanetti played in midfield when his performances were already declining, while Oriali was one of the best DMFs in Europe at his peak, something that Zanetti never was.. Edit: The only change that should be made here is Brehme instead of Cordoba, don't know why the latter was even added to first team here.. I don't think Brehme deserves it better than Cordoba. Brehme only played 4 years at Inter. Cordoba for 13 years. Yes Brehme won the Scudetto & the UEFA cup once , but Cordoba won a lot during his time there! Serie A: 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10 Coppa Italia: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10, 2010–11 Supercoppa Italiana: 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010 UEFA Champions League: 2009–10 FIFA Club World Cup: 2010 |
Author: | StuartBannigan [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:52 am ] |
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I always used Bergomi as CB and Zanetti as RB. Bergomi was probably a better CB than Guarneri anyway even if his natural position was RB. And of course I find it impossible to leave Zanetti out the starting XI. |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:02 pm ] |
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StuartBannigan wrote: I always used Bergomi as CB and Zanetti as RB. Bergomi was probably a better CB than Guarneri anyway even if his natural position was RB. And of course I find it impossible to leave Zanetti out the starting XI. Yes, it's one of several possibilities, perhaps even the most viable comparing quality in position and idolatry. What impressed me is that Zanetti is out even with so many options. |
Author: | 27DONI72 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:02 pm ] |
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There are a lot of better CB than Cordoba. Zanetti is sooooo overrated IMHO if I should do an Inter all stars team based only on quality I'd never put him in the first two teams, but since he has been a 20 years simbol he should be in the team but not in the starting XI. |
Author: | gurkenjoe93 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:05 pm ] |
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M Ace wrote: I don't think Brehme deserves it better than Cordoba. Brehme only played 4 years at Inter. Cordoba for 13 years. Yes Brehme won the Scudetto & the UEFA cup once , but Cordoba won a lot during his time there! Serie A: 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10 Coppa Italia: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2009–10, 2010–11 Supercoppa Italiana: 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010 UEFA Champions League: 2009–10 FIFA Club World Cup: 2010 Cordoba almost had nothing to do with that UCL, he played two matches during the whole competition. And the point is not the amount of years he played for Inter, it's his position: There are three central defenders with Picchi, Guarneri and Ferri already and you also have either Bergomi or Burgnich (the one who doesn't start as RB) as fourth option. On the other hand there's only one LB with Facchetti, he only "logical" choice as his backup is the second best Inter LB and that's Brehme (who had tremendous impact during his four years). Cordoba is nothing different than Dürnberger or Rafinha at Bayern, Serginho or Ambrosini at Milan, O'Shea or Brown at United, etc All of them were decent role players and gained good amount of games/trophies and but none of them is an all time great at those clubs. |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:09 pm ] |
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27DONI72 wrote: There are a lot of better CB than Cordoba. Zanetti is sooooo overrated IMHO if I should do an Inter all stars team based only on quality I'd never put him in the first two teams, but since he has been a 20 years simbol he should be in the team but not in the starting XI. technical criteria must be considered but neither crucial nor decisive, or Ronaldo would not be a reserve. I really agree that Zanetti wasn't that good compared to many there, but a guy with almost 20 years at the club, almost 900 games and winning what he won as a key part of the team needs to be considered in the starting 11. |
Author: | 27DONI72 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:46 pm ] |
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Mikerdead39 wrote: 27DONI72 wrote: There are a lot of better CB than Cordoba. Zanetti is sooooo overrated IMHO if I should do an Inter all stars team based only on quality I'd never put him in the first two teams, but since he has been a 20 years simbol he should be in the team but not in the starting XI. technical criteria must be considered but neither crucial nor decisive, or Ronaldo would not be a reserve. I really agree that Zanetti wasn't that good compared to many there, but a guy with almost 20 years at the club, almost 900 games and winning what he won as a key part of the team needs to be considered in the starting 11. We can consider him but IMHO Burgnich and Bergomi were better than him. |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:51 pm ] |
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27DONI72 wrote: Mikerdead39 wrote: 27DONI72 wrote: There are a lot of better CB than Cordoba. Zanetti is sooooo overrated IMHO if I should do an Inter all stars team based only on quality I'd never put him in the first two teams, but since he has been a 20 years simbol he should be in the team but not in the starting XI. technical criteria must be considered but neither crucial nor decisive, or Ronaldo would not be a reserve. I really agree that Zanetti wasn't that good compared to many there, but a guy with almost 20 years at the club, almost 900 games and winning what he won as a key part of the team needs to be considered in the starting 11. We can consider him but IMHO Burgnich and Bergomi were better than him. yes I agree with you. Zanetti is not known for being spectacular in his roles as Bergomi and Burgnich, but for being balanced and consistent. You're right. PS: I don't withdraw my suggestion (or suggestions) for Zanetti in the XI. Better ≠ Bigger or more idol. |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:06 pm ] |
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I have a question (it's not a suggestion, I'd just like to hear from you all), could Zlatan join the reserve players list? Or is it already something out of reality? I'm questioning why I read the previous quotes on the topic and didn't see anyone mentioning his name. |
Author: | El Capo [ Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:45 pm ] |
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You can't compare Zanetti with those defenders. Is like comparing Lahm or Kimmich with bigger muscles and less passing with Schwarzenbeck. |
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