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 David ARELLANO 1922-1927 
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Name: David Alfonso Arellano Moraga

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Country: :CHI: Chile
Club: Deportes Magallanes (1922-25), CSD Colo-Colo (1925-27)
Position: *SS, AMF, CF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 20-25 years (29/07/1902)

Height: 174 cm
Weight: 64 kg *


Attack: 85
Defence: 32
Balance: 72
Stamina: 77
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 84
Response: 82
Agility: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 84
Dribble Speed: 81
Short Pass Accuracy: 83
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 82
Long Pass Speed: 74
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 90
Free Kick Accuracy: 73
Curling: 71
Header: 82
Jump: 85
Technique: 85
Aggression: 82
Mentality: 78
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 84

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Early/Peak

CARDS:
P03 - Trickster
P12 - Goal Poacher
S02 - Passer

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Playmaking - Passing - Scoring

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


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Considered one of the best Chilean players at the time, David Arellano was a striker who played for Deportes Magallanes and Colo-Colo, winning titles with both teams. His main position was inside-forward on the left side but he also played as centre forward. He was founder and first captain of Colo-Colo, team he scored 111 goals in 194 matches for. He capped 6 times for Chile, scoring 7 goals. He unfortunately died young in 1927 because of peritonite. His playing style was described clean and elegant: he had extraordinary speed and agility, good ball possession, dribbling skills, heading ability that followed prodigious leaps; his shots were respectable and his passes accurate; he was excellent at organizing actions but also a great scorer; his specialty was the bicycle kick goal which he used very often. He didn't have a great physique and many times he fell after challenges with an opponent.

https://youtu.be/iQI5nTyvFbs Short video about Arellano


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Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:21 pm
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Good set, but the default position is SS, CF and optional WF -I don't know if he ever played WF-.
Being a regular scorer - Chile NT: Matches: 6, Goals: 7- and a classic 10 creator, his ATT may be higher.
Why is he left foot?.


Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:29 am
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BOSCOANCHO wrote:
Good set, but the default position is SS, CF and optional WF -I don't know if he ever played WF-.
Being a regular scorer - Chile NT: Matches: 6, Goals: 7- and a classic 10 creator, his ATT may be higher.
Why is he left foot?.

I found that it was "interior izquierdo" so I though it was left foot.
Did he only played on left while his foot was right?
What "interior izquierdo" exactly corresponds to in English?
Thanks for the feedback. :)


Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:21 am
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"His ATT may be higher" is enough to raise his ATT by 5 points?
I don't know much about this player but I find it strange that you first gave him 84 there and then raise it by five points without any explanation..
BTW, according to this:
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David Arellano, Gründer und sprunggewaltiger Starstürmer von Colo Colo, schraubt sich in einen Kopfballzweikampf mit dem Spanier Hornia, verliert ihn jedoch, geht zu Boden und wird dabei unglücklich von seinem Gegenspieler mit dem Knie in der Magengegend getroffen.

https://www.11freunde.de/artikel/chiles ... d-arellano
JUM should be raised, 76 is definitely too low..


Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:57 pm
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Interista93 wrote:
I found that it was "interior izquierdo" so I though it was left foot.
Did he only played on left while his foot was right?
What "interior izquierdo" exactly corresponds to in English?
Thanks for the feedback. :)


You can translate "Interior Izquierdo" to SS or WF (who plays on the left side, mostly of them were right footed, at least back then).
Btw can we please elaborate on the matter, before do any change.

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TheGreatRossonero wrote:
You can translate "Interior Izquierdo" to SS or WF (who plays on the left side, mostly of them were right footed, at least back then).
Btw can we please elaborate on the matter, before do any change.

So WF might be not optional?

gurkenjoe93 wrote:
"His ATT may be higher" is enough to raise his ATT by 5 points?
I don't know much about this player but I find it strange that you first gave him 84 there and then raise it by five points without any explanation..
JUM should be raised, 76 is definitely too low..

He scored a lot but his primary position wasn't centre forward therefore is 89 maybe too high?
What do you all suggest his ATT and JUM should be?


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WF should be his third position, btw this guy is already deadly with his current set, should be OK now...

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TheGreatRossonero wrote:
WF should be his third position, btw this guy is already deadly with his current set, should be OK now...

I set WF as third position.
ATT 89 > 86
JUM 76 < 79
He should be ok and more equilibrate now.


Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:32 pm
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Classic N°10 don't work on SS, WF, CF the last time i checked.

And when they meant "interior" is for SS (or AMF when they played in the 2-3-5 Metodo, 3-2-5 formations) and in some cases the DMF in Spain was called like that back in those times, first time i see that they used to call like to the WF (as they are universally called "extremos", "puntas" or simply "wings".


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El Capo wrote:
Classic N°10 don't work on SS, WF, CF the last time i checked.

And when they meant "interior" is for SS (or AMF when they played in the 2-3-5 Metodo, 3-2-5 formations) and in some cases the DMF in Spain was called like that back in those times, first time i see that they used to call like to the WF (as they are universally called "extremos", "puntas" or simply "wings".

Do you think Classic N° 10 is unnecessary and should be removed?
And about the positions: WF or not WF? This is the question... :mrgreen:


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Yes, cuz the "P" cards only works on their highlighted positions: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6005

And well, on the positions:

https://chile.as.com/chile/2017/05/03/f ... 38971.html
http://www.memoriachilena.cl/602/w3-article-93190.html
http://arogeraldes.blogspot.com/2012/08 ... iento.html
http://www.colocolo.cl/historia/fundaci ... -arellano/
https://www.guioteca.com/colo-colo/davi ... 1ra-parte/
http://www.rsssf.com/tables/26safull.html

In all those it is said that he played in the "Insider izquierdo" (Left SS) which they compared that role to the most recent AMF's.

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A la sazón lo describían como un jugador con "juego sobrio y elegante, dominio de la pelota, buen cabeceador y disparo respetable, buen dribling, pase certero y organizador por excelencia".


https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gira_inte ... Resultados

http://www.rsssf.com/tables/24safull.html But in this one it is written that he played as LDMF, but i wouldn't take it in count since there's nothing else (as far as i looking) backing that he played in that role back then.

So, to conclude: While the set itself is well represented according to the info regarding his skills as a player, i don't think he should get those shooting stats, Just by looking at the results of their International Tour, by the time of his death on May 1 1927, he was outscored by Subiabre.

SS should be the only position, the others positions: CF and WF should be deleted/placed as optionals as i see that the English wiki of him say that one of his position was winger, and in case you want to leave them as optionals i would add AMF as well, but i genuinely, i only keep SS as the only position for him.

I would add Playmaking, given the "pase certero y organizador por excelencia" remark.

That's all i guess.


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CF and WF set as optional.
SA 91 > 89
ST 94 > 90
Removed Classic N° 10.
Added Playmaking.


Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:45 pm
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In positions it should be * SS, AMF (Optional) CF, WF
ATT: 87
SA and ST, especially ST should be smaller, maybe, think about what you've read.
SA: -88- "His shots were respectable"
ST: 90/91 (Only for the "Chilean" that popularized) (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilena_ (f% C3% BAtbol) #La_chilena)
More AGG; its values in speed? how is it defined?.
Many "Organizer" players of the time have ACC < TS and not much DS -maybe equal to TS-.
"Elegant" player, IMO have AGI < DA when they aren't known for their speed.
Add in Special Abilities:
* Playmaking

(Optional)
* Positioning - Does it improve him on head and bicycle kicks? Being in the space, or not?
* 1-Touch Pass - What about this?

-Sorry for my Inglish :)-


Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:16 pm
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ATT is actually 86, SA 89 and ST 90. I think these may stay like this.
AGI 84 I think is ok considering his body size.
I may increase a bit AGG value.
DS is already equal to TS. ACC may be 80.
Positioning isn't necessary in my opinion. Maybe 1-touch pass could be ok.
I wait answers from the others. :)


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Don't add Positioning since it will make him too Poacher, like Trezeguet, he probably was like Roberto Cherro.
, neither 1-touch Pass since that kind of play wasn't widely used back then, only players with enough amount of info could be worthy of that.

I have not seen info claiming that he was fast or explosive, TS/ACC/AGI/DS are possibly quite generous to me, but let it be anyways.


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