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 Raimundo ORSI 1929-1934 
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Name: Raimundo Bibiani Orsi

Nickname: "Mumo", "Il Violinista"


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Country: :ITA: :ARG: Italy/Argentina
Club: Juventus F.C.
Position: *WF, CF
Side: LF/LS
Age: 27-32 years (02/12/1901)

Height: 170 cm
Weight: 66 kg

Attack: 87
Defence: 34
Balance: 74
Stamina: 79
Top Speed: 87
Acceleration: 93
Response: 78
Agility: 91
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 87
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 71
Long Pass Accuracy: 81
Long Pass Speed: 80
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 84
Free Kick Accuracy: 72
Curling: 87
Header: 71
Jump: 74
Technique: 88
Aggression: 89
Mentality: 73
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 79

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Early/Lasting


CARDS:
S01 - Marauding
S04 - PK Taker
S14 - Speed Merchant
P03 - Trickster
P05 - Mazing Run

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Penalties

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:55 pm
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Orsi was also the Penalty kicker of his time in Juventus, I think the card and the S.A. could be added.

I'd also increase a bit AGI on orange value..

"Quale calciatore Raimundo Bibiano Orsi era tecnicamente completo. Palleggiatore sopraffino, come detto,sia di destro che di sinistro, in quanto possedeva, come si dice nello speciale gergo del football, completamente i due piedi; il suo dribbling era largo o stretto, a seconda delle circostanze, ma preferiva superare gli avversari che gli contrastavano il passo con perfette finte eseguite col tronco, andandosene poi sia sulla destra che sulla sinistra, come credeva meglio riuscire. Le sue doti più efficaci apparivano la velocità ed il tiro che, specie in corsa, riusciva quasi sempre micidiale. Collaborava sempre con i compagni di linea ma, quando gli sembrava opportuno, era capacissimo di andarsene per suo conto e risolvere le situazioni da solo, anche se la spalla con la quale meglio se la intendeva fosse un elemento della classe e versatilità di “Gioanin” Ferrari, sia nella Juventus che, sovente, anche in Nazionale."

I don't know about WFA and WFF, maybe they could reach 6 both, but I'm not sure.. maybe only WFA..

LPA could be higher, on yellow zone..
Also TMW could be higher..

Instead, I'm not sure about such an high TEC and AGG.. IMO they could be around 88-89 both.. also MEN could go down to 76-77..

"“Mumo” era specialista nel battere i calci d’angolo che spesso riusciva a mandare direttamente in rete con traiettorie curve studiatissime. Era impeccabile anche nei calci di rigore. Nell’ultima seduta di allenamento cui partecipò allo “Stadio Comunale” scommise, come sovente faceva, con il compianto Giampiero Combi, che gli avrebbe segnato dieci rigori facendogli passare la palla a mezz’altezza sull’angolo destro. Ne realizzò sette, due Combi li deviò ed uno colpì il montante finendo fuori."


Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:32 pm
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Simcav wrote:
Orsi was also the Penalty kicker of his time in Juventus, I think the card and the S.A. could be added.

I'd also increase a bit AGI on orange value..

"Quale calciatore Raimundo Bibiano Orsi era tecnicamente completo. Palleggiatore sopraffino, come detto,sia di destro che di sinistro, in quanto possedeva, come si dice nello speciale gergo del football, completamente i due piedi; il suo dribbling era largo o stretto, a seconda delle circostanze, ma preferiva superare gli avversari che gli contrastavano il passo con perfette finte eseguite col tronco, andandosene poi sia sulla destra che sulla sinistra, come credeva meglio riuscire. Le sue doti più efficaci apparivano la velocità ed il tiro che, specie in corsa, riusciva quasi sempre micidiale. Collaborava sempre con i compagni di linea ma, quando gli sembrava opportuno, era capacissimo di andarsene per suo conto e risolvere le situazioni da solo, anche se la spalla con la quale meglio se la intendeva fosse un elemento della classe e versatilità di “Gioanin” Ferrari, sia nella Juventus che, sovente, anche in Nazionale."

I don't know about WFA and WFF, maybe they could reach 6 both, but I'm not sure.. maybe only WFA..

LPA could be higher, on yellow zone..
Also TMW could be higher..

Instead, I'm not sure about such an high TEC and AGG.. IMO they could be around 88-89 both.. also MEN could go down to 76-77..

"“Mumo” era specialista nel battere i calci d’angolo che spesso riusciva a mandare direttamente in rete con traiettorie curve studiatissime. Era impeccabile anche nei calci di rigore. Nell’ultima seduta di allenamento cui partecipò allo “Stadio Comunale” scommise, come sovente faceva, con il compianto Giampiero Combi, che gli avrebbe segnato dieci rigori facendogli passare la palla a mezz’altezza sull’angolo destro. Ne realizzò sette, due Combi li deviò ed uno colpì il montante finendo fuori."


Update:

Added PK Taker/Penalties to his Cards/S.A

AGI: 89>91
LPA: 78>82
TEC: 91>88
MEN & TW swapped
WFA: 5>6

I left AGG untouched..It is better, more faithful like that.


Sat May 07, 2016 8:11 pm
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Like all classic winger of that era he don't need such DS ( He is on the same level of Kakà ), also is even more faster and like i said in tesourinha thread , these kind of players don't need more than 91. He's DA can be mantain , to represebt that unbelieveble TEC.

TS 87 ACC 91 is more believed .

Like all goo winger

LPA 78-79 and LPS 85-86 , power before accuracy in the crossing.

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I'd reduce a little bit more his MEN (73 at least), he was know to 'dissapear' in matches after tough marking of the opponents, 75 would make him a little bit of a warrior, which is something that he apparently wasn't.


Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:53 am
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https://www.myjuve.it/giocatori-juventu ... si-63.aspx

Apparently for Juve, he only played as LWF.


Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:27 pm
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El Capo wrote:
I'd reduce a little bit more his MEN (73 at least), he was know to 'dissapear' in matches after tough marking of the opponents, 75 would make him a little bit of a warrior, which is something that he apparently wasn't.


Now, in retrospective, this was not best move... He usually scored the winners for Juventus.


Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:07 pm
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The guy scored the late equalizer in the WC final with Mussolini in the stands watching the game and threatening to kill them if they lose. Doesn't sound like MEN 73 to me.


Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:51 pm
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Meazza84 wrote:
The guy scored the late equalizer in the WC final with Mussolini in the stands watching the game and threatening to kill them if they lose. Doesn't sound like MEN 73 to me.

I don't think that a match is enough to determine an increase in MEN. Also, who wouldn't play like that with someone threatening you? :lol:


Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:10 pm
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Interista93 wrote:
Meazza84 wrote:
The guy scored the late equalizer in the WC final with Mussolini in the stands watching the game and threatening to kill them if they lose. Doesn't sound like MEN 73 to me.

I don't think that a match is enough to determine an increase in MEN. Also, who wouldn't play like that with someone threatening you? :lol:


Maybe. I know I play much much worse when I'm under a lot of pressure. :) Many players do too, I think. To play the best when it's the hardest is a sign of mental strength, isn't it? And I don't think it can get any harder than that, this isn't just any match, it was a WC final, a matter of life and death, and his team was losing at home in the 80th minute. It was a really difficult goal, they say, he was asked to repeat his move for the cameras and he tried 10 times but he wasn't able to do it again. :)

I actually think that the fact that he was selected by Pozzo, who required real fighting spirit from all his players, shows that he wasn't exactly a chicken. Pozzo was known to drop better players for the sake of worse ones who would sacrifice themselves more on the pitch. I know, maybe he was just too good to be omitted, but still...


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