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ERA 2009-2011

Name: Lucimar Ferreira da Silva

Nickname: Lúcio


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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Inter Milan
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 31-33 years (08/05/1978)

Height: 187 cm
Weight: 82 kg

Attack: 71
Defence: 86
Balance: 93
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 80
Response: 85
Agility: 78
Dribble Accuracy: 76
Dribble Speed: 81
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Short Pass Speed: 79
Long Pass Accuracy: 73
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 68
Shot Power: 85
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 73
Curling: 71
Header: 86
Jump: 82
Technique: 76
Aggression: 75
Mentality: 88
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 83

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Standard/Lasting

CARDS:
P18 - Extra Attacker
S07 - Man Marking
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Marking - Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defence Minded

INFO:
1997 Guará 0 (0)
1997-2000 Internacional 49 (1)
2000-2004 Bayer Leverkusen 92 (15)
2004-2009 Bayern Monaco 144 (7)
2009-2012 Inter 96 (3)
2012- Juventus 0 (0)

National Team [Brazil] (2000-...) 105 (4)

PALMARES:
2 DFL
3 Bundesliga
3 DFB
1 Serie A
1 Coppa Italia
2 Italian SuperCup
1 Champions League
1 FIFA Club World Cup

World Champion, 2002 Brazil
2 Confederation Cup, 2005 & 2009


Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:33 am
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Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
Name: Lucimar Ferreira da Silva - "Lúcio"

Nickname: "O Cavalo"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 22-26 years (08/05/1978)
Era: 2000-2004

Height: 186 cm
Weight: 80 kg

Attack: 74
Defence: 83
Balance: 87
Stamina: 86
Top Speed: 85
Acceleration: 81
Response: 81
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 78
Dribble Speed: 80
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 73
Shot Power: 88
Shot Technique: 72
Free Kick Accuracy: 76
Curling: 72
Header: 86
Jump: 82
Technique: 76
Aggression - Club: 80 | NT: 75
Mentality: 82
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 80

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard
Consistency: 7

CARDS:

P16 - Extra Attacker
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced

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Name: Lucimar Ferreira da Silva - "Lúcio"

Nickname: "O Cavalo"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Bayern Munich
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 27-30 years (08/05/1978)
Era: 2005-2008

Height: 187 cm
Weight: 81 kg

Attack: 73
Defence: 84
Balance: 90
Stamina: 85
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 82
Response: 84
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 70
Shot Power: 88
Shot Technique: 71
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 71
Header: 86
Jump: 82
Technique: 78
Aggression - Club: 78 - NT: 75
Mentality: 85
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 81

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 8
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard/Lasting
Consistency: 7

CARDS:

P16 - Extra Attacker
S07 - Man Marking
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Marking - Sliding - Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced


Last edited by El Capo on Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:43 pm, edited 4 times in total.



Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:55 am
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His FKA needs to be higher in both sets, he was a good FK taker at both clubs..
Also AGG and ATT in second set should be one point higher..
And why in hell is TEC in both sets lower than in his Inter set? Especially 74 looks very questionable to me..


Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:36 pm
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Updated his FKA & TEC in boths sets.... also his AGG & ATT in Bayern's set


Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:17 pm
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He could even claim a bit higher value for TS in Leverkusen set, while ACC should be reduced a bit. He had some pretty amazing offensive runs during his time in Germany, especially in his time at Leverkusen he often acted more as striker than as defender and scored important goals for his teams. To represent this IG, I use him with yellow value for AGG and also with higher value for HEA than JUM. He was regular scorer with headers (this is why I'd raise HEA) but his JUM was IMO never so special, rather 82 or 83 if you ask me.
For Leverkusen set Dribbling also should be added, also AGI should be in green as well.
And one thing for all three sets: he had much stronger shot than those sets suggest. Please check out this:

0:39, 0:57, 1:28, 4:59
or here at 2:46 and 5:40

85 is IMO not enough for him ;)


Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:38 pm
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Updated this thread, thanks for the feedback, i wasn't so sure about some values and in the future i was planning to update this, the previous sets:

Spoiler: show
Era: 2000-2004

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 22-26 years (08/05/1978)

Height: 186 cm
Weight: 80 kg

Attack: 74
Defence: 83
Balance: 87
Stamina: 86
Top Speed: 84
Acceleration: 84
Response: 81
Agility: 81
Dribble Accuracy: 72
Dribble Speed: 80
Short Pass Accuracy: 73
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 71
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 73
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 72
Free Kick Accuracy: 76
Curling: 72
Header: 81
Jump: 86
Technique: 76
Aggression: 78
Mentality: 82
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 80

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard
Consistency: 7

CARDS:

P18 - Extra Attacker
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defence Minded

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Era: 2005-2008

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: FC Bayern Munich
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 27-30 years (08/05/1978)

Height: 187 cm
Weight: 81 kg

Attack: 73
Defence: 84
Balance: 90
Stamina: 85
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 83
Response: 84
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 70
Shot Power: 85
Shot Technique: 71
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 71
Header: 85
Jump: 86
Technique: 78
Aggression: 78
Mentality: 85
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 81

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 8
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard/Lasting
Consistency: 7

CARDS:

P18 - Extra Attacker
S07 - Man Marking
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Marking - Sliding - Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defence Minded


I've decided to split his AGG on Leverkusen/Munich sets to be superior to the NT, for example in the Brazilian NT, he didn't really push himself higher on the pitch like with clubs and on Inter he was a little bit under control, also i've push his DA in Leverkusen higher too, seems logical to me, also standarized some values too.


Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:43 pm
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El Capo wrote:
Updated this thread, thanks for the feedback, i wasn't so sure about some values and in the future i was planning to update this, the previous sets:

Spoiler: show
Era: 2000-2004

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 22-26 years (08/05/1978)

Height: 186 cm
Weight: 80 kg

Attack: 74
Defence: 83
Balance: 87
Stamina: 86
Top Speed: 84
Acceleration: 84
Response: 81
Agility: 81
Dribble Accuracy: 72
Dribble Speed: 80
Short Pass Accuracy: 73
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 71
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 73
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 72
Free Kick Accuracy: 76
Curling: 72
Header: 81
Jump: 86
Technique: 76
Aggression: 78
Mentality: 82
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 80

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard
Consistency: 7

CARDS:

P18 - Extra Attacker
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defence Minded

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Era: 2005-2008

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: FC Bayern Munich
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 27-30 years (08/05/1978)

Height: 187 cm
Weight: 81 kg

Attack: 73
Defence: 84
Balance: 90
Stamina: 85
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 83
Response: 84
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 70
Shot Power: 85
Shot Technique: 71
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 71
Header: 85
Jump: 86
Technique: 78
Aggression: 78
Mentality: 85
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 81

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 8
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard/Lasting
Consistency: 7

CARDS:

P18 - Extra Attacker
S07 - Man Marking
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Marking - Sliding - Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defence Minded


I've decided to split his AGG on Leverkusen/Munich sets to be superior to the NT, for example in the Brazilian NT, he didn't really push himself higher on the pitch like with clubs and on Inter he was a little bit under control, also i've push his DA in Leverkusen higher too, seems logical to me, also standarized some values too.

No problem mate ;)
Btw, what about MEN? I have to say that 82 seems to low for his time at Leverkusen (even 85 for Bayern), it was always one his main characteristics that he never gave up what resulted in his famous offensive runs (yes he sometimes failed there but often they resulted in danger for the opponent). On the other hand I never found his performances in Brazil NT so special, IMO he never showed the same class there as he did for his clubs. Mainly splitting MEN would be a good idea, what do you think?


Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:43 pm
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How much MEN for Clubs? Current values should be enough to display his perfomances with the seleção..

EDIT:

BTW, i think SP in Inter set can be adapted.


Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:53 pm
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Well I use him with 87 (as part of Leverkusen AS) but probably I overrated him a bit because he is one of my favorite players :D
But anyway, regarding MEN he was already great at Leverkusen/Bayern, not just at Inter ;)


Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:01 pm
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So:

2000-2004

Mentality - Club: 85 | NT: 82

2005-2008

Mentality - Club: 87 | NT: 85


Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:20 pm
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I was watching Milan VS Bayern Munchen of the season 2006/07, i know it's only one watch but imo in that match he doesn't show any yellow values for speed stats and even for agi, i've lost the count of how many time he kick Kaká because he can't even mark him properly.
1 Penalty conceded and and another penalty incorrectly anuled.


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