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 Stefano ARGILLI 2003-2005 
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Name: Stefano Argilli

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Country: :ITA: Italy
Club: AC Siena
Position: *CB, SB, DMF
Side: RF/RS
Age: 30-32 years (05/01/1973)

Height: 178 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Attack: 66
Defence: 78
Balance: 82
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 76
Acceleration: 71
Response: 84
Agility: 69
Dribble Accuracy: 72
Dribble Speed: 74
Short Pass Accuracy: 70
Short Pass Speed: 74
Long Pass Accuracy: 72
Long Pass Speed: 68
Shot Accuracy: 63
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 65
Free Kick Accuracy: 59
Curling: 62
Header: 79
Jump: 84
Technique: 70
Aggression: 65
Mentality: 78
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 78

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 6
Growth type: Standard

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SPECIAL ABILITIES:

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced


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1991-1996 Rimini 94 (2)
1996-2005 Siena 227 (12)
2005-2006 Modena 19 (1)
2006-2007 Livorno 11 (0)
2007 Frosinone 13 (0)
2007-2009 Cremonese 36 (0)
2009 Monteriggioni


Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:45 am
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I think this set is not good.
I quote from my books:
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difensore centrale...sempre pronto e combattivo...è un giocatore che fa della dinamicità e dell'agonismo le sue doti principali, anche se queste gli fanno compiere diversi falli.


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difensore centrale abile in elevazione e bravo nell'anticipo, può essere utilizzato davanti alla difesa in un ruolo che ricorda quello del centromediano metodista d'altri tempi. Abile negli inserimenti offensivi porta in dote qualche gol prezioso. Ha il suo tallone d'achille nella esasperante lentezza che si fa sentire quando deve affrontare avversari rapidi.

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Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:50 pm
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27DONI72 wrote:
I think this set is not good.
I quote from my books:
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difensore centrale...sempre pronto e combattivo...è un giocatore che fa della dinamicità e dell'agonismo le sue doti principali, anche se queste gli fanno compiere diversi falli.


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difensore centrale abile in elevazione e bravo nell'anticipo, può essere utilizzato davanti alla difesa in un ruolo che ricorda quello del centromediano metodista d'altri tempi. Abile negli inserimenti offensivi porta in dote qualche gol prezioso. Ha il suo tallone d'achille nella esasperante lentezza che si fa sentire quando deve affrontare avversari rapidi.


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Name: Stefano Argilli

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Country: :ITA: Italy
Club: AC Siena
Position: *SB, CB
Side: RF/RS
Age: 30-32 years (05/01/1973)

Height: 178 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Attack: 66
Defence: 78
Balance: 81
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 75
Response: 78
Agility: 74
Dribble Accuracy: 73
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 71
Short Pass Speed: 73
Long Pass Accuracy: 72
Long Pass Speed: 74
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 67
Free Kick Accuracy: 66
Curling: 69
Header: 76
Jump: 82
Technique: 73
Aggression: 69
Mentality: 81
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 83

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 6
Growth type: Standard

CARDS:

SPECIAL ABILITIES:

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced


INFO:
1991-1996 Rimini 94 (2)
1996-2005 Siena 227 (12)
2005-2006 Modena 19 (1)
2006-2007 Livorno 11 (0)
2007 Frosinone 13 (0)
2007-2009 Cremonese 36 (0)
2009 Monteriggioni


Sat May 14, 2016 11:42 pm
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Because many values have been lowered drastically? For example agility from 74 to 69, free Kick Accuracy from 66 to 59, and other values changed here and there. You should be felt first of all Simcav, the creator of this player to see if he agrees with the changes, because maybe has his own reasons for giving those specific values. Also because it has created a lot of Italian players, so it is expert in creating them. And as a matter of fairness to it because it is a job done by him. Mine is not a polemic indeed, because you have to give the credit that you agree to update the players or to create them! But perhaps in this case it would be useful to hear the author of the player, nothing more.


Sun May 15, 2016 8:07 am
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I'd like to hear his opinions too..

What does fully says the quotes that Doni gave from his book? Cause i really want to know what does mean all the description given, because i manage to understand that he was a awfully slow player, always beaten by faster opponents (thus the lower TS/ACC/AGI)...

JM, whenever you want.


Sun May 15, 2016 9:54 am
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The first one says he was combative and dynamic central defender which were his main strengths, although he commited some fouls because of that. The second claims he was central defender with good elevation and anticipating and could be used in front of defence in the role which reminds on the old centromediano metodista role from the old WM system. Able in offensive runs which resulted in some precious goals as well. But very slow which was noticed especially when facing fast opponents..


So CB should be registered position. I don't see problems here with the update El Capo did, Simcav had 2 years to answer on the suggestions from Doni, so we've been waiting long enough for his answer..


Sun May 15, 2016 11:15 am
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Does the part of "offensive runs" means something like to Reaction in S.A.?


PD: Changed registered position.


Sun May 15, 2016 3:09 pm
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No, he doesn't need it..

I admit I've never heard for this player before, still from those text I'd swap MEN with TMW, also raise HEA to 79 and BB up by 2 points..


Sun May 15, 2016 6:44 pm
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Yes, yet for the MEN issue, i'd like to keep it like (i like to increase RES instead) because: "sempre pronto e combattivo...è un giocatore che fa della dinamicità e dell'agonismo le sue doti principali, anche se queste gli fanno compiere diversi falli."

Doesn't this mean that he was very combative? But at the same time this combative style inside him make him commit several fouls (which i believe it that is related to players with low MEN, but at the same time high RES values like Pepe and Davids).


Sun May 15, 2016 8:23 pm
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Yes, that's right. I made that suggestion because i thought and still think his TMW shouldn't be in yellow. So you can decrease it without touching the MEN value. And raise RES a bit, he wasn't so bad player at all..


Sun May 15, 2016 8:31 pm
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Ok, increased RES to 84 (overall, like you've said he wasn't so bad, and his now high RES ingame wouldn't affect that much because he is very slow now with current speed values).

TW: 82>78
HEA: 76>79
BB: 80>82


Sun May 15, 2016 8:37 pm
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