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Author: | JeanMarc [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
Club de Regatas Vasco da Gama All Stars GOALKEEPERS: BARBOSA ACÁCIO DEFENDERS: BRILHANTE ORLANDO Peçanha FELIPE BRITO ITÁLIA - Luiz Gervazoni ORLANDO Pereira BELLINI MIDFIELDERS: JORGE Sacramento GEOVANI RUSSINHO ALCIR Portela JUNINHO Pernambucano ELY DANILO Alvim STRIKERS: PINGA Roberto DINAMITE ADEMIR MANECA EDMUNDO CHICO ROMÁRIO _____________________________________________________________ RESERVES: GOALKEEPERS: CARLOS GERMANO MAZARÓPI Edgardo ANDRADA REI DEFENDERS: COCADA FONTANA ALFREDO Ramón RAFAGNELLI CÁSSIO FIDÉLIS ODVAN Mauro GALVÃO / DONATO AUGUSTO CORONEL MIDFIELDERS: MOLA PEDRINHO FAUSTO ZARZUR BISMARCK VÁLTER MARCIANO SORATO LUISINHO ADÃO TINOCO MAZINHO STRIKERS: VALDIR Bigode VAVÁ IPOJUCAN SABARÁ TESOURINHA CÉLIO - Célio Taveira Filho ALMIR PERNAMBUQUINHO FRIAÇA SAULZINHO BEBETO PASCHOAL Formation by Mikerdead39 Honours Brazilian Championship - Serie A since 1967 Best result: 1st 4 times first in 2000, 1997, 1989, 1974 3 times second in 2011, 1984, 1979 1 times third in 1968 Copa Libertadores since 1960 Best result: 1st 1 times first in 1998 Copa Sudamericana since 2007 (5 participations) Best result: Semi-finals in 2011 Intercontinental Cup since 1960/1961 Best result: 2nd 1 times second in 1998 Club World Cup since 2000 Best result: 2nd 1 times second in 2000 Brazilian Cup since 1989 Best result: 1st 1 times first in 2011 1 times second in 2006 |
Author: | MagicDip [ Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
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Author: | gordon#21 [ Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
Osmar Donizete Cândido here? |
Author: | LucioRP [ Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
Finally i can create this great team in mi OF, thanks! Any formation for this team? |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
Hello, Great job! Some suggetions: Edmundo should be in the first 23 for sure, I have no doubt about that. His identity with Vasco is huge, one of the biggest in the club. Mazinho played as a left back in Vasco, I would put him in the 23, as Felipe is in the midfield, eventough his prime in Vasco was as lef back as well |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 4:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
Also, Sorato was a forward. |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
[With the players that are there, I would choose this team: However, I have some disagreements regarding the 23 chosen. 1 - Alcir Portela was a Defensive Midfielder, not Defender, and I believe he should remain at 23, he is really one of the biggest idols. You can change his position with Felipe, who became Vasco's idol in the Left Side. 2 - Edmundo has to enter the 23. His representation in Vasco in the 90s was surreal. One of the protagonists of one of the club's most important titles, he has to be in the 23. It's a difficult choice to take a striker off the list, as they are all equally giants, but I would take Vavá, with a pain in my heart, but I believe that Edmundo deserves this place. 3 - There are many CB's in the 23, the only full-back there is Jorge Sacramento and Felipe (who is in midfield, which makes all defenders be defenders with an improvised full-back). I would remove Rafagnelli to put Orlando "Lelé" Pereira, who played for Vasco in the 70s. With the changes, I would scale the team like this: Bellini as Captain. |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
As the team still not having a coach, I have two suggestions: Flávio Costa or Antônio Lopes |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
I would take out easily Itália and Brilhante to put in two of these three options: Mazinho (left-back while in Vasco), Augusto (could play both as center and right back) and Mauro Galvão (center back). Those three players were superior technicaly and also have a legacy in the club. |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
It is very strange to see Cocada listed here. He basically did only one mythological goal for Vasco in 1988 and thats it. He wasnt even a starter. It doesnt fit at all with the forum's criterias. Actually the starter right back at Cocada's time was Paulo Roberto, the same I mentioned before in Grêmio. After Paulo Roberto left Vasco, Luis Carlos Winck came and was great. He is considered one of the best right backs in Vasco's history. Both (PR and LCW) are not listed here and they are way far more important for the club than Cocada who just enter at the end of the game, did a goal against Flamengo (biggest rival) in the final, receiving the red card right after this. |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
Felipe: viewtopic.php?f=15&p=32562#p32562 |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
What about that? GOALKEEPERS: BARBOSA CARLOS GERMANO DEFENDERS: AUGUSTO ORLANDO Peçanha FELIPE MAURO GALVÃO MAZINHO ORLANDO LELÉ BELLINI BRITO MIDFIELDERS: JORGE Sacramento GEOVANI ALCIR Portela JUNINHO Pernambucano ELY DANILO Alvim STRIKERS: PINGA ROBERTO DINAMITE ADEMIR EDMUNDO CHICO ROMÁRIO FRIAÇA _____________________________________________________________ RESERVES: GOALKEEPERS: ACÁCIO MAZARÓPI Edgardo ANDRADA NELSON DA CONCEIÇÃO DEFENDERS: PAULINHO DE ALMEIDA FONTANA Ramón RAFAGNELLI CÁSSIO ODVAN / DONATO BRILHANTE CORONEL MARCO ANTÔNIO DEDÉ PAULO ROBERTO ITÁLIA MIDFIELDERS: ALFREDO II MOLA PEDRINHO FAUSTO ZARZUR BISMARCK VÁLTER MARCIANO ZANATA RAMON LUISINHO TINOCO NENÊ STRIKERS: VALDIR Bigode VAVÁ IPOJUCAN SABARÁ TESOURINHA CÉLIO - Célio Taveira Filho ALMIR PERNAMBUQUINHO BEBETO PASCHOAL LELÉ RUSSINHO MANECA |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
Bola Clássica wrote: What about that? GOALKEEPERS: BARBOSA CARLOS GERMANO DEFENDERS: AUGUSTO ORLANDO Peçanha FELIPE MAURO GALVÃO MAZINHO ORLANDO LELÉ BELLINI BRITO MIDFIELDERS: JORGE Sacramento GEOVANI ALCIR Portela JUNINHO Pernambucano ELY DANILO Alvim STRIKERS: PINGA ROBERTO DINAMITE ADEMIR EDMUNDO CHICO ROMÁRIO FRIAÇA _____________________________________________________________ RESERVES: GOALKEEPERS: ACÁCIO MAZARÓPI Edgardo ANDRADA NELSON DA CONCEIÇÃO DEFENDERS: PAULINHO DE ALMEIDA FONTANA Ramón RAFAGNELLI CÁSSIO ODVAN / DONATO BRILHANTE CORONEL MARCO ANTÔNIO DEDÉ PAULO ROBERTO ITÁLIA MIDFIELDERS: ALFREDO II MOLA PEDRINHO FAUSTO ZARZUR BISMARCK VÁLTER MARCIANO ZANATA RAMON LUISINHO TINOCO NENÊ STRIKERS: VALDIR Bigode VAVÁ IPOJUCAN SABARÁ TESOURINHA CÉLIO - Célio Taveira Filho ALMIR PERNAMBUQUINHO BEBETO PASCHOAL LELÉ RUSSINHO MANECA Hi. I was going over some things, and I agree with basically everything here. I would like to recommend another lineup as well (based on this selection). GK Barbosa CB Orlando CB Bellini RB Augusto LB Felipe DMF Alvim CMF Juninho SS/AMF Edmundo SS/AMF Ademir CF Romário CF Roberto Dinamite Captain: Bellini | Augusto Short free kick: Juninho Long free kick: Juninho Free Kick 2: Roberto Dinamite Right corner: Juninho Left corner: Juninho Penalty: Roberto Dinamite About the changes, I believe that the ones that draw more attention are Augusto in place of Orlando Lelé and the exit of Ely for Edmundo in a more offensive line-up. Orlando Lelé was part of one of the most secure defenses in Vasco's history, but Augusto played more, for longer, and won tons of Campeonato Carioca, being captain in several of these victories. I put the 4-2-2-2 formation to be able to include all of Vasco's great strikers in positions where they played. This decision of mine is questionable btw, I see no problem in keeping the original 4-3-3 lineup, although I prefer this 4-2-2-2 as it scales the best players. Juninho and Ely are a good match too, I put Juninho because of the titles he won. @Bola Clássica what do you think about that? |
Author: | Bola Clássica [ Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
I totally agree with Augusto replacing Orlando Lelé. I believe he was an overall better player and also more important to Vasco than Orlando Lelé. Regarding put 4 attackers Im not sure, I wouldnt do that but if it is the case I would choose Dinamite to play behind the attackers, not Edmundo. Dinamite was moved back when get older to play behind a young and incredible Romário. Also, I believe Danilo Alvim can never be out of the best XI. I would go like this: GK Barbosa CB Bellini (on the right - typical "zagueiro central") CB Orlando RB Augusto LB Felipe DMF Ely DMF/CMF Danilo Alvim CMF Juninho SS or CF Ademir CF or SS Roberto Dinamite CF Romário OR GK Barbosa CB Bellini CB Orlando RB Augusto LB Felipe DMF/CMF Danilo Alvim CMF Juninho SS/AMF Roberto Dinamite SS/AMF Ademir CF Romário CF Edmundo |
Author: | Mikerdead39 [ Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: CR Vasco da Gama All Stars |
My bad, I misspoke, I meant "Juninho or Ely", Alvim is for sure the unanimous choice for the midfield. Put Roberto as SS/AMF is a great choice, I hadn't thought about that, although the formation I proposed keeps Edmundo and Roberto in their original positions. I like how the "bad boys" duo is created, with Dinamite linking up with Romário, all within the historical pattern, I totally agree. So we have this? |
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