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C. A. Boca Juniors All Stars



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COACH:
:ARG: Carlos BIANCHI
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GOALKEEPERS:

:ARG: Antonio ROMA
:ARG: Hugo GATTI


DEFENDERS:

:PER: Julio MELÉNDEZ
:ARG: Ludovico BIDOGLIO
:ARG: Silvio MARZOLINI
:ARG: Carlos SOSA
:ARG: Alberto TARANTINI
:ARG: Roberto MOUZO
:ARG: Vicente PERNÍA
:COL: Jorge BERMÚDEZ


MIDFIELDERS:

:ARG: Antonio RATTÍN
:ARG: Ernesto LAZZATTI
:ARG: Natalio PESCIA
:ARG: Rubén SUÑÉ
:ARG: Diego MARADONA
:ARG: Marcelo TROBBIANI
:ARG: Juan RIQUELME


ATTACKERS:

:ARG: Roberto CHERRO
:ARG: Martín PALERMO
:ARG: Ángel ROJAS
:ARG: Francisco VARALLO
:ARG: Mario BOYÉ
:PAR: Delfín BENÍTEZ CÁCERES




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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

:ARG: Américo TESORIERE
:ARG: Julio MUSIMESSI
:COL: Óscar CÓRDOBA
:ARG: Roberto ABBONDANZIERI

DEFENDERS:

:BRA: DOMINGOS DA GUIA
:BRA: ORLANDO PEÇANHA de Carvalho
:ARG: Walter SAMUEL
:ARG: Carlos MAC ALLISTER
:ARG: Carmelo SIMEONE
:ARG: Hugo IBARRA
:ARG: Oscar RUGGERI
:ARG: Rodolfo ARRUABARRENA
:ARG: Rolando SCHIAVI

MIDFIELDERS:

:ARG: Ernesto GRILLO
:ARG: Miguel BRINDISI
:SPA: / :ARG: Pedro SUÁREZ
:PAR: Manuel FLEITAS SOLICH
:ARG: Sebastián BATTAGLIA
:COL: Mauricio SERNA
:ARG: Ramón MUTIS
:PER: Víctor BENÍTEZ
:URU: Ariel KRASOUSKI
:ARG: Mario ZANABRIA

ATTACKERS:

:ARG: Domingo TARASCONE
:ARG: Jaime SARLANGA
:URU: Severino VARELA
:BRA: PAULO VALENTIM
:ARG: Guillermo BARROS SCHELOTTO
:ARG: José BORELLO
:ARG: Ernesto MÁSTRANGELO
:URU: Sergio MARTÍNEZ
:ARG: Carlos TÉVEZ






Best Eleven:


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GK Roma
CB Bidoglio
CB Melendez
RB Sosa
LB Marzolini
DMF Rattin (C)
DMF Lazzatti
AMF Riquelme
AMF Maradona
SS Caceres
CF Cherro

Captain: Antonio Rattin | Silvio Marzolini | Juan Roman Riquelme
Short Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Juan Roman Riquelme
Long Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Juan Roman Riquelme
Right Corner: Diego Maradona | Juan Roman Riquelme
Left Corner: Juan Roman Riquelme | Diego Maradona
Penalty: Juan Roman Riquelme | Diego Maradona\


Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:36 pm
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I would also like to explain myself on why we did the changes we did.

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Goalkeepers:
My first idea was to add three goalkeepers: Córdoba, Gatti, and Roma, as all three have more or less the same impact for the club, be as in games played, titles won, or cultural impact, but that was quickly ruled out. The general consensus on this topic in Argentina is that Óscar Córdoba is the greatest goalkeeper in the history of Boca Juniors, which I 100% agree. In the end, we decided to move A. Roma to the reserves.

Defenders:
By far the most difficult part of the team and maybe the most controversial. In my opinion, the only players who had their place in the first team absolutely secured despite who we added or not were R. Mouzo, S. Marzolini, and, controversially, H. Ibarra (who for me is the greatest right-back in the team's history by a BIG margin. First I thought of moving C. Sosa to the midfield section, as he played more than half a decade for Boca as a DMF (right-half, more precisely) and for the team, he is more remembered as a midfielder than a right-back; this way we could add V. Pernía as Ibarra's substitute, but we decided not to, and keep Sosa in the defenders' section. Then, we needed a left-back substitute for S. Marzolini, but the three most competent options (R. Arruabarrena, A. Tarantini, and C. Rodríguez) were quite lackluster in comparison to what we could've added in other positions. I wanted to go for Arruabarrena but Interista went for Tarantini (same amount of games and same amount of titles), so it was subjective. For the center-backs, as I said, the only one secured was Mouzo, so the decision was between Meléndez/Bermúdez/Bidoglio, with the two latter making the cut.

Midfielders:
Pretty straightforward. We only changed M. Trobbiani, who I don't know why was there, for S. Battaglia, the winningest player in the history of the club.

Forwards:
Another controversial one but we decided to keep Delfín Benítez Cáceres out of the team and add Guillermo Barros Schelotto and Carlos Tévez. I wouldn't mind having Benítez Cáceres in the first team, as he's had an amazing goalscoring record and he's an all-time player, but the cultural impact Guillermo Barros Schelotto and Carlos Tévez had for Boca Juniors is unquestionable. It's impossible for me to diminish the size of these two players for Boca in the 21st century, and I can't fathom a Boca Juniors All-Star team without these two.

Reserves:
I sent Interista a list of ~50 players that could make the reserves so he could remove some (I was very indecisive). In the end, he decided to go with these reserves which we fully agreed on. Personally, I removed Oscar Ruggeri, who is persona non grata in the club, and Domingos da Guia, who despite his amazing performances at Boca in the 30s and his legend status as the best Brazilian center-back ever, he only played there for one year, which is definitely not enough to even consider him.

Starting XI:
We haven't worked on a Starting XI yet. My original idea was to find a way to include the four biggest idols of the team (besides Bianchi): Riquelme, Palermo, Maradona, and Rojitas; but that seemed impossible, so I opted for some sort of 4-1-2-1-2, like this:


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THE BEST EVER XI

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GK CÓRDOBA
CB MOUZO
CB BERMÚDEZ
LB MARZOLINI
RB IBARRA
DMF RATTÍN ©
CMF SUÑÉ
CMF BATTAGLIA
AMF RIQUELME
SS MARADONA / SS ROJAS
CF PALERMO

Captain: Antonio Rattín / Silvio Marzolini / Juan Román Riquelme
Short free kick: Diego Maradona / Juan Román Riquelme
Long free kick: Diego Maradona / Juan Román Riquelme
Free kick 2: -
Right corner: Juan Román Riquelme
Left corner: Juan Román Riquelme
Penalty: Juan Román Riquelme


Mon May 06, 2024 3:26 pm
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Great work from Interista and Nacho.

I read both explanations and it makes totaly sense.

I just want to add that Domingos da Guia played there for 2 years and a half, not 1 year as mentioned.

Im not sure if it is enough to reconsider his place among the reserves but that is his correct spell at the club.

I know it is a hard info to find in the internet though.


Mon May 06, 2024 9:03 pm
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Bola Clássica wrote:
Great work from Interista and Nacho.

I read both explanations and it makes totaly sense.

I just want to add that Domingos da Guia played there for 2 years and a half, not 1 year as mentioned.

Im not sure if it is enough to reconsider his place among the reserves but that is his correct spell at the club.

I know it is a hard info to find in the internet though.

Thanks, mate! About Domingos, he allegedly played 56 games, a poor number in a two-year and a half spell, even in the 1930s. I don't think he's necessary in this team.


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