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 Berti VOGTS 1972-1978 
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Name: Hans-Hubert "Berti" Vogts

Nickname: "Der Terrier"


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Country: :GER: Germany
Club: Borussia Mönchengladbach
Position: *SB, CWP, CB, DMF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 25-31 years (30/12/1946)

Height: 168 cm
Weight: 67 kg

Attack: 69
Defence: 84
Balance: 82
Stamina: 95
Top Speed: 86
Acceleration: 84
Response: 87
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 75
Dribble Speed: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 77
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 67
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 72
Free Kick Accuracy: 72
Curling: 74
Header: 81
Jump: 91
Technique: 77
Aggression: 79
Mentality: 95
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 8
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Standard/Lasting

CARDS:
S07 - Man Marking
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Marking - Sliding - Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced



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Hans-Hubert "Berti" Vogts (born 30 December 1946 in Büttgen) is a retired German footballer and current manager of the Azerbaijan national team. Hans-Hubert "Berti" Vogts, started his career in his hometown club VfR Büttgen. The right-sided defender was soon picked up by one of West Germany’s top clubs at the time, Borussia Mönchengladbach, where he established himself and played for fourteen years. Nicknamed “Der Terrier” for always fighting for every ball as it was his last, Vogts was a big favourite with his home crowd. In 1967, he made his debut for West Germany and three years later he took part in his first big tournament, the World Cup in Mexico. Berti played in every game as the Germans captured bronzemedals.

Vogts seldom had to settle for second best at club level. His impressive roll of honour included five league championships, one domestic cup title and two UEFA Cup titles all with the same club, Borussia Mönchengladbach. On a personal note, he was named German Player of the Year twice. One trophy that eluded him was the European Cup which he came very close of winning in 1977 when his team lost 3-1 to Liverpool in the final in Rome.
By then he was already a World Cup winner. Three years earlier, West Germany hosted and won the World Cup with Vogts as one of their most important players. He played in all the seven matches including the final where he was marking the Dutch star Johann Cruyff with success. He was infact an ever-present in every of the three World Cups he participated in, making his total of games to 19, beaten by only five other players in World Cup history.

In 1977, Berti took over the captaincy of the national team from Franz Beckenbauer and kept it until after the Argentina World Cup the following year which was no success for him or the team as West Germany bowed out in the second phase. He retired as a player in 1979 and started working as a scout before taking over the German national team as coach in 1990 leading them to victory in Euro 1996.


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Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:35 pm
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27DONI72 wrote:
I'm not sure about ACC and DEF, don't you think that this stats could be raise by 2 points?


Charrúan wrote:
Not sure for higher DEF, he was very aggresive in marking opponents always dedicated play on mental and physical strenght rather than on some defensive inteligence.. ACC is fine IMO, he was faster without ball..


JeanMarc wrote:
His DEF should be higher regardless of his mental and physical strength, players like Merkel or Jones had much more strength but they wre nowhere near good defenders as Vogts...


Charrúan wrote:
I can't agree more from 85.. Peruzović was top class stopper during 70's even in Europe and he is on 86..


JeanMarc wrote:
Vogts was also stopper regardless of the fact he played mainly on the right back position. His DEF was better than Peruzović and many other defenders..Surely better than Beckenbauer who'll get big update soon


Charrúan wrote:
That's all right, but he will not be higher in DEF from Peruzović..


Does he need some updates?


Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:37 am
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Watched him a bit and what I can say is this set needs a general update, in the 77 final his individual marking on Keegan was impressive, something like what he did in 74 against Cruijff...From what he displayed, his Konami Set is more suited to his style than this one, specially the DEF and RES values, might seem high for a SB at first glance but that was Vogts, I'd also say the current 95 in STA is over the top regardless the intensity he put on the pitch in 90 mn. His passing was better than Konami's for sure, but TECH, DA, DS I don't see them better than what they gave him. He was not a footballer, he was a defender, one among the best.


Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:27 am
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Well, I can tell the same as you... But not sure, for me he had better TECH (75-76) and DS (74-75) than KONAMI's set...


Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:17 pm
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DA/DS both should stay in low 70's, he couldn't and wouldn't do much with the ball as it wasn't his game. Tech could be at 75 max, for me he doesn't need it higher.


Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:55 pm
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Could any change be expected here?


Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:03 am
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Sure, post your updated set and I will change first post.


Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:54 am
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I don't have a set for him but I would take his PES 2011 Konami set and make some changes on it. For me that PES 2011 set is more or less representative of what he was.
He should be rated like this:

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SB, CB , SWP, DMF?


Attack: 65-68
Defence: 92
Balance: 79
Stamina: 87/88
Top Speed: 83/84
Acceleration: 83
Response: 92
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 71
Dribble Speed: 72
Short Pass Accuracy: 72
Short Pass Speed: 70
Long Pass Accuracy: 74
Long Pass Speed: 74
Shot Accuracy: 63
Shot Power: 83
Shot Technique: 65
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 65
Header: 72
Jump: 85
Technique: 74
Aggression: 71
Mentality: 95
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 78

Condition: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 7

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Marking
Sliding
Covering

CARDS:
S07 - Man Marking
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

Growth Type: Standard/Lasting
Attack/Defence Awareness: Balanced


Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:23 am
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I'd like to see some opinions about ACC and TS, I remember him faster than your values.


Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:48 am
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For me his TS and ACC are right in the actual set... At least ACC, for me TS is little higher than my own view but only one point, I could give him 85.

And well, the set posted by MagiDip seems suitable for Vogts, I consider that suits better than the current set which is a little overrated in some aspects, but IMO he should have green value in LPA and LPS, and better TW (82-83), he had good understanding with his team mates


Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:59 pm
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So no more suggestions for MagicDip set? Is it ok? Can I move it to the first post?


Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:36 pm
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Side should be RF/RS. If I'm not totally wrong Vogts only played on the right side during this time, as leftback he only played during the first years of his career..


Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:43 pm
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Look at his legs, doping :?: :lol:

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STA/SP is underrated :mrgreen:

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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:31 pm
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What do you think about raising his Defence a few points? Some of you recommends a 92 in DEF, I don`t know if that is a very high value, but something like 88 could be right for him.


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