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PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
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Author:  Interista93 [ Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:34 pm ]
Post subject:  PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
I'd like to share what I believe would potentially be the best lists for a PES with only classic all star teams. The following lists will also provide an overall view of squads that are currently missing an all stars team in the forum. The teams highlighted in blue already have a thread.

● The criteria used for clubs, sorted by weight, are as following:
- main continental competition wins
- domestic league wins
- other major continental competition wins
- times as runner-up in the main continental competition (semifinals and quarter-finals are also considered for teams in the "Rest of" groups)
- times as domestic league runner-up
- Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup wins
- least valuable continental competition wins (ex. Fairs Cup, Conference League, CONCACAF League, AFC Cup, etc.)
- times as runner-up in any secondary continental competition
- times as third place in the domestic league
- domestic cup wins
- times as Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup runner-up
- times as runner-up in the least valuable continental competition (semifinals are also considered for teams in the "Rest of" groups)
- times as runner-up in any domestic cup
- Campeonato Paulista, Campeonato Carioca and Torneio Rio-São Paulo (for Brazilian teams)
- any Supercup wins
- other state league titles (for Brazilian teams)
- participations in the domestic league (continental tournaments are considered for teams in the "Rest of" groups).

● The criteria used for national teams, sorted by weight, are as following:
- World Cup wins
- main continental competition wins (minor weight for OFC Oceania Cup)
- times as World Cup runner-up
- times as runner-up in the main continental competition
- other major competition wins (the editions of the Olympic Games taken into account are 1910-1964 and 1984-1988)
- times as World Cup semifinalist
- times as runner-up in other major competitions
- times as World Cup quarter-finalist
- times as semifinalist in the major continental competition
- participations in the World Cup
- least valuable competitions wins (OFC Nations Cup, FIFA Arab Cup, AFC Challenge Cup)
- times as quarter finalist in the major continental competition
- participations in the major continental competition
- times as semifinalist in other major competitions
- times as runner-up in the least valuable competitions
- best ever final place in major competitions (when two or more teams have the same points)
- highest ever FIFA rank (when the previous requirement isn't met).

Champions League winning teams or World Cup winning national teams, for example, aren't automatically placed higher than teams without such accomplishments as everything is considered.

● Most editions of PES have different leagues and the leagues don't always have the same number of teams. For example German Bundesliga was last featured in PES 6, second divisions were first added in PES 2015, Italian Serie B had 22 teams until 2017-18 and then 20 since 2019-20, and so on. Therefore, I include teams for every league that was featured in-game since PES 5 and up to PES 2021.

● Considering the first two points, the teams are sorted in a "meritocratic" order. Between the brackets next to the league's name are the minimum and maximum numbers of teams ever available in PES for that specific league.


Down below is a map of the number of teams for each league from PES 5 to PES 2021 (it should be correct). Feel free to give suggestions to change teams or the order and explain the reason.

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:BEL: Pro League (up to 18)
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● Anderlecht
● Club Brugge
● Standard de Liège
● Molenbeek
● Union Saint-Gilloise
● Antwerp
● Beerschot
● Mechelen
● Genk
● RFC Liège
● Lierse
● Gent
● Cercle Brugge
● Beveren
● Berchem
● Zulte Waregem
● KRC Mechelen
● Lokeren

alternatives
● Charleroi
● Sint-Truidense



:DEN: Superligæn (up to 14) or :ESG: DDR-Oberliga (14)
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● Kjøbenhavns Boldklub
● FC København
● Brøndby
● Akademisk Boldklub
● Aarhus
● Frem
● Boldklubben 1903
● Boldklubben af 1893
● Odense
● Midtjylland
● Esbjerg
● Vejle
● Aalborg
● Lyngby

alternatives
● Koge
● Hvidovre


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● Dynamo Dresden
● BFC Dynamo
● Carl Zeiss Jena
● Vorwärts Frankfurt
● Magdeburg
● Lokomotive Leipzig
● Rot-Weiß Erfurt
● Wismut Aue
● Hansa Rostock
● Chemie Leipzig
● Zwickau
● Hallescher
● FC Karl-Marx-Stadt
● Dresdner SC



:ENG: Premier League (20) + Championship (24)
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● Liverpool
● Manchester United
● Arsenal
● Chelsea
● Manchester City
● Everton
● Aston Villa
● Tottenham Hotspur
● Sunderland
● Wolverhampton Wanderers
● Newcastle United
● Leeds United
● Nottingham Forest
● Sheffield Wednesday
● Preston North End
● Huddersfield Town
● Blackburn Rovers
● West Bromwich Albion
● Derby County
● Burnley

● Leicester City
● Sheffield United
● Ipswich Town
● West Ham United
● Portsmouth
● Bolton Wanderers
● Middlesbrough
● Southampton
● Birmingham City
● Blackpool
● Charlton Athletic
● Cardiff City
● Queens Park Rangers
● Norwich City
● Stoke City
● Notts County
● Crystal Palace
● Watford
● Fulham
● Luton Town
● Oldham Athletic
● Bury
● Bristol City
● Coventry City

alternatives
● Wigan Athletic
● Wimbledon
● Bradford City
● Brighton & Hove Albion
● Swansea City



:FRA: Ligue 1 (20) + Ligue 2 (20)
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● Paris Saint-Germain
● Olympique de Marseille
● Monaco
● Saint-Étienne
● Girondins de Bordeaux
● Olympique Lyonnais
● Nantes
● Lille
● Stade de Reims
● Roubaix-Tourcoing
● Racing Club de France
● Nice
● Sochaux
● Lens
● Strasbourg
● Havre
● Sète
● Auxerre
● Montpellier
● Nîmes Olympique

● Metz
● Stade Rennais
● CA Paris
● Toulouse
● Sedan
● Bastia
● Red Star
● Stade Français
● Valenciennes
● Cannes
● Nancy
● Rouen
● Angers
● Amiens
● Guingamp
● Stade Lavallois
● Stade Brestois
● Lorient
● Troyes
● Caen

alternatives
● Toulon
● Ajaccio
● Le Mans



:GER: Bundesliga (18)
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● Bayern München
● Borussia Dortmund
● Schalke 04
● Hamburger SV
● Werder Bremen
● Borussia Mönchengladbach
● Nürnberg
● Stuttgart
● Köln
● Kaiserslautern
● Bayer Leverkusen
● Eintracht Frankfurt
● Hertha BSC
● Lokomotive Leipzig
● Fortuna Düsseldorf
● Greuther Fürth
● Dresdner SC
● 1860 München

alternatives
● Berliner Viktoria
● RB Leipzig
● Hannover 96
● Karlsruher
● Wolfsburg
● Holstein Kiel



:ITA: Serie A (20) + Serie B (up to 22)
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● Juventus
● Milan
● Inter
● Roma
● Torino
● Napoli
● Bologna
● Genoa
● Lazio
● Fiorentina
● Pro Vercelli
● Sampdoria
● Parma
● Atalanta
● Cagliari
● Hellas Verona
● Udinese
● Vicenza
● Venezia
● Livorno

● Casale
● Alessandria
● Triestina
● Palermo
● Modena
● Pisa
● Padova
● Perugia
● Novara
● Spal
● Bari
● Brescia
● Lecce
● Catanzaro
● ChievoVerona
● Empoli
● Catania
● Ascoli
● Cesena
● Como
● Cremonese
● Pro Patria

alternatives
● Lucchese
● Sassuolo
● Foggia
● Avellino



:NET: Eredivisie (18)
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● Ajax
● PSV
● Feyenoord
● HVV Den Haag (1899-1914 era team)
● Sparta Rotterdam
● Twente
● Go Ahead Eagles
● Willem II
● NAC Breda
● AZ
● ADO Den Haag
● HBS Craeyenhout
● Vitesse
● Utrecht
● Roda JC Kerkrade
● Heracles Almelo
● DWS
● Haarlem

alternatives
● RAP
● Koninklijke HFC
● Heerenveen
● RCH
● FC Eindhoven



:POR: Liga Portugal (up to 18)
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● Benfica
● Porto
● Sporting CP
● Belenenses
● Boavista
● Vitória FC
● Sporting Braga
● Vitória SC
● Académica de Coimbra
● Atlético CP
● Marítimo
● Beira-Mar
● Leixões
● Barreirense
● Paços de Ferreira
● Rio Ave
● Olhanense
● Estoril Praia

alternatives
● G.D. Fabril
● Estrela Amadora



:SCO: Premiership (12)
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● Rangers
● Celtic
● Aberdeen
● Hearts of Midlothian
● Hibernian
● Motherwell
● Kilmarnock
● Dundee United
● Dundee FC
● Airdrieonians
● Queen's Park
● Dumbarton

alternatives
● St. Mirren
● Third Lanark



:SPA: LaLiga (20) + Segunda División (22)
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● Real Madrid
● Barcelona
● Atlético de Madrid
● Athletic Club
● Valencia
● Sevilla
● Real Sociedad
● Real Zaragoza
● Deportivo La Coruña
● Espanyol
● Real Betis
● Mallorca
● Villarreal
● Sporting de Gijón
● Las Palmas
● Racing Santander
● Real Oviedo
● Real Unión
● Celta Vigo
● Real Valladolid

● Arenas de Getxo
● Osasuna
● Deportivo Alavés
● Getafe
● Granada
● Málaga
● Levante
● Elche
● Rayo Vallecano
● Girona
● Sabadell
● Castellón
● Hércules
● Real Murcia
● Cádiz
● Recreativo de Huelva
● CE Europa (1923-1931 era team)
● Tenerife
● Salamanca
● Almería
● Córdoba
● Logroñés

alternatives
● Albacete
● Pontevedra



:SWI: Super League (10) or :AUT: Bundesliga (10)
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● Grasshopper
● Servette
● Young Boys
● Basel
● Zürich
● Lausanne-Sport
● Lugano
● La Chaux-de-Fonds
● Sion
● Neuchâtel Xamax

alternatives
● St. Gallen
● Aarau
● Winterthur
● Luzern


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● SK Rapid
● Austria Wien
● Red Bull Salzburg
● Admira Wacker Mödling
● Wacker Innsbruck
● First Vienna
● Sturm Graz
● Wiener SC
● Grazer
● Wiener AC

alternatives
● LASK



:TUR: Süper Lig (18) or :YUG: Prva Savezna Liga (18)
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● Fenerbahçe
● Galatasaray
● Beşiktaş
● Trabzonspor
● Gençlerbirliği
● Ankaragücü
● Eskişehirspor
● Altay
● Bursaspor
● Göztepe
● İstanbul Başakşehir
● Ankara Demirspor
● İstanbulspor
● Altinordu
● Konyaspor
● Gaziantepspor
● Adana Demirspor
● Sivasspor

alternatives
● Adanaspor
● Kocaelispor
● Kayserispor


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● :SER: Crvena Zvezda
● :CRO: Dinamo Zagreb
● :SER: FK Partizan
● :CRO: Hajduk Split
● :SER: OFK Beograd
● :SER: Vojvodina
● :BIH: Velež
● :BIH: Sarajevo
● :CRO: HŠK Concordia
● :BIH: Željezničar
● :CRO: HAŠK
● :CRO: Rijeka
● :BIH: Slavija Sarajevo
● :BIH: Čelik Zenica
● :BIH: SAŠK Sarajevo
● :MAK: Vardar
● :BIH: Sloboda Tuzla
● :MON: Budućnost

alternatives
● :BIH: Borac Banja Luka
● :SLO: Olimpija Ljubljana
● :SER: Spartak Subotica



:SOV: Top League (16) [in place of Russian Premier Liga]
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● :RUS: Spartak Moscow
● :UKR: Dynamo Kyiv
● :RUS: Dinamo Moscow
● :RUS: CSKA Moscow
● :GEO: Dinamo Tbilisi
● :RUS: Torpedo Moscow
● :UKR: Dnipro
● :UKR: Shakhtar Donetsk
● :ARM: Ararat
● :RUS: Zenit
● :BLR: Dinamo Minsk
● :RUS: Lokomotiv Moscow
● :UKR: Zorya
● :RUS: SKA Rostov
● :UKR: Chornomorets Odesa
● :UKR: Metalist Kharkiv

alternatives
● :AZR: Neftçi
● :RUS: Krylya Sovetov Samara
● :KZH: Kairat FC
● :UZB: Pakhtakor
● :LIC: Žalgiris
● :UKR: Karpaty Lviv



Image Rest of Europe (up to 56)
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● :SER: Crvena Zvezda
● :HUN: Ferencvárosi
● :CZE: Sparta Praha
● :AUT: SK Rapid
● :HUN: Újpest FC
● :AUT: Austria Wien
● :HUN: Vasas SC
● :CZE: Slavia Praha
● :HUN: MTK Budapest
● :ROM: Steaua București
● :SWE: Göteborg
● :TUR: Galatasaray
● :GRE: Panathinaikos
● :BUL: CSKA Sofia
● :CRO: Dinamo Zagreb
● :SER: FK Partizan
● :CZE: Dukla Praha
● :CRO: Hajduk Split
● :SVK: Spartak Trnava
● :AUT: First Vienna
● :POL: Legia Warszawa
● :SWE: Malmö
● :AUT: Wacker Innsbruck
● :SVK: Slovan Bratislava
● :ESG: Dynamo Dresden
● :GRE: Olympiacos
● :HUN: Budapest Honvéd
● :AUT: Admira Wacker
● :SWI: Basel
● :SWI: Zürich
● :ESG: Magdeburg
● :SWI: Grasshopper
● :SER: Vojvodina
● :ROM: Dinamo Bucureşti
● :GRE: AEK Athens
● :ESG: Carl Zeiss Jena
● :AUT: Red Bull Salzburg
● :TUR: Fenerbahçe
● :BUL: Levski Sofia
● :SER: OFK Beograd
● :TUR: Beşiktaş
● :POL: Górnik Zabrze
● :ESG: Lokomotive Leipzig
● :ROM: Rapid Bucureşti
● :ESG: BFC Dynamo
● :SWI: Young Boys
● :DEN: Brøndby
● :CZE: Baník Ostrava
● :AUT: Wiener SC
● :BIH: Čelik Zenica
● :HUN: ETO Győr
● :BIH: Željezničar
● :NOR: Rosenborg
● :ROM: Universitatea Craiova
● :POL: Widzew Łódź
● :CYP: APOEL FC

alternatives
● :GRE: PAOK
● :BUL: Slavia Sofia
● :SWI: Servette
● :DEN: Aarhus
● :NIR: Linfield
● :AUT: Sturm Graz
● :ESG: Vorwärts Frankfurt
● :HUN: Fehérvár
● :POL: Ruch Chorzów
● :SWI: Lausanne-Sport
● :BIH: Velež
● :DEN: FC København
● :SWE: Åtvidabergs
● :NIR: Glentoran
● :POL: Wisła Kraków
● :CZE: Bohemians Praha
● :SWE: Djurgårdens
● :SWE: AIK
● :TUR: Göztepe
● :TUR: Trabzonspor



Image CAF Champions League (16 as in the group stage)
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In old gen games, it's possible to unlock the African League that includes the team Pleasure Horn via editing tools. Theoretically, this way you can move teams from another fake league to the African one.


● :EGY: Al Ahly
● :CDR: Mazembe
● :EGY: Zamalek
● :TUN: Espérance Tunis
● :TUN: Étoile du Sahel
● :GHA: Asante Kotoko
● :MOR: Wydad
● :MOR: Raja CA
● :ALG: Kabylie
● :CAM: Canon de Yaoundé
● :GUI: Hafia
● :GHA: Hearts of Oak
● :CDR: Vita Club
● :COT: ASEC Mimosas
● :EGY: Ismaily
● :MOR: AS FAR

alternatives
● :ALG: ES Sétif
● :NIG: Enyimba
● :SOU: Mamelodi Sundowns
● :TUN: Club Africain
● :SOU: Orlando Pirates
● :COT: Stade d'Abidjan
● :CAM: Union Douala
● :CAM: Oryx Douala
● :ALG: MC Alger
● :CON: CARA Brazzaville
● :SOU: Kaizer Chiefs



:ARG: Primera División (up to 30)
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● River Plate
● Boca Juniors
● Independiente
● San Lorenzo
● Racing Club
● Estudiantes
● Vélez Sarsfield
● Huracán
● Newell's Old Boys
● Alumni (1900-1911 era team)
● Rosario Central
● Lanús
● Argentinos Juniors
● Gimnasia y Esgrima
● Banfield
● Quilmes
● Ferro Carril Oeste
● Talleres
● Tigre
● Arsenal
● Estudiantes (BA)
● Platense
● Defensa y Justicia
● Chacarita Juniors
● Sportivo Barracas
● Colón
● Nueva Chicago
● Dock Sud
● C.A. Unión
● Godoy Cruz

alternatives
● Atlanta
● Almagro
● Deportivo Español



:BRA: Série A (20) + Série B (20)
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● Palmeiras
● Flamengo
● Santos
● São Paulo
● Corinthians
● Cruzeiro
● Internacional
● Grêmio
● Fluminense
● Atlético Mineiro
● Vasco da Gama
● Botafogo
● Athlético Paranaense
● Bahia
● Sport Recife
● Coritiba
● Vitória
● Guarani
● Náutico
● Fortaleza

● América (RJ)
● América (MG)
● Portuguesa
● Santa Cruz
● São Caetano (2000-2004 era team)
● Goiás
● Ceará
● Paysandu
● Red Bull Bragantino
● Bangu
● Remo
● Chapecoense
● Ponte Preta
● CSA
● Figueirense
● Criciúma
● Paraná
● Juventude
● Atlético Goianiense
● Avaí



:CHI: Primera División (up to 18)
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● Colo-Colo
● Universidad Católica
● Universidad de Chile
● Unión Española
● Cobreloa
● Audax Italiano
● Magallanes
● Santiago Wanderers
● Palestino
● Everton de Viña del Mar
● Huachipato
● O'Higgins
● Santiago Morning
● Cobresal
● Universidad de Concepción
● Deportes Temuco
● Deportes Iquique
● Rangers

alternatives
● Coquimbo Unido
● Unión San Felipe



:COL: Categoría Primera A (up to 20)
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● Atlético Nacional
● Millonarios
● América de Cali
● Deportivo Cali
● Junior
● Independiente Santa Fe
● Independiente Medellín
● Deportes Tolima
● Once Caldas
● Deportes Quindío
● Deportivo Pasto
● Atlético Bucaramanga
● Deportivo Pereira
● Cúcuta Deportivo
● La Equidad
● Unión Magdalena
● Boca Juniors de Cali
● Atlético Huila
● Boyacá Chicó
● Real Cartagena



Image Rest of South America (up to 85) [38 for Copa Libertadores and 47 for Copa Sudamericana]
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● :URU: Peñarol
● :URU: Club Nacional
● :PAR: Club Olimpia
● :ECU: LDU
● :PAR: Cerro Porteño
● :ECU: Barcelona SC
● :PAR: Club Libertad
● :BOL: Club Bolívar
● :PER: Universitario
● :ECU: Emelec
● :MEX: Club América
● :ECU: Independiente del Valle
● :MEX: Guadalajara
● :PER: Sporting Cristal
● :URU: Defensor Sporting
● :ECU: El Nacional
● :MEX: Tigres UANL
● :PER: Club Cienciano
● :MEX: Cruz Azul
● :BOL: Jorge Wilstermann
● :VEN: Caracas
● :PAR: Club Nacional
● :PAR: Club Guaraní
● :MEX: Pachuca
● :PER: Alianza Lima
● :URU: Danubio
● :MEX: Club Universidad Nacional
● :VEN: Deportivo Táchira
● :MEX: Atlas
● :BOL: Oriente Petrolero
● :BOL: The Strongest
● :VEN: Estudiantes de Mérida
● :PAR: Sportivo Luqueño
● :URU: River Plate
● :VEN: Minervén
● :PER: Melgar
● :PAR: Sol de América
● :URU: Bella Vista

● :MEX: Deportivo Toluca
● :PAR: Colegiales
● :MEX: Club Necaxa
● :MEX: Santos Laguna
● :PER: Real Garcilaso/Cusco
● :MEX: Morelia
● :PER: Sport Boys
● :VEN: Mineros de Guayana
● :PER: Universidad César Vallejo
● :VEN: Zulia
● :URU: Montevideo Wanderers
● :VEN: Deportivo Miranda
● :VEN: Deportivo Galicia/Aragua
● :ECU: Deportivo Quito
● :BOL: Blooming
● :VEN: Portuguesa
● :ECU: Deportivo Cuenca
● :BOL: San José
● :VEN: Marítimo de La Guaira
● :PER: Deportivo Municipal
● :VEN: Zamora
● :PER: Juan Aurich
● :ECU: 9 de Octubre
● :VEN: Atlético Maracaíbo
● :MEX: San Luis
● :BOL: Universitario San Francisco Xavier
● :PER: Universidad San Martín
● :ECU: Deportivo Olmedo
● :URU: Liverpool
● :BOL: Club Aurora
● :ECU: Universidad Católica
● :VEN: Deportivo La Guaira
● :URU: Fénix
● :ECU: Técnico Universitario
● :VEN: Deportivo Lara
● :VEN: Unión Local Andina
● :PAR: 12 de Octubre
● :BOL: Deportivo Municipal
● :ECU: Aucas
● :BOL: Real Potosí
● :VEN: Carabobo
● :BOL: Always Ready
● :URU: Progreso
● :ECU: Delfín
● :PER: Sport Huancayo
● :MEX: Monterrey
● :URU: Cerro



Image North American Teams
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While I don't think it's possible to create a league that works as CONCACAF Champions League, you can still decide to add North American teams. If you want you can even make them part of the Copa Libertadores considering that Mexican clubs used to compete in the tournament, although it wouldn't be realistic for the other North American countries.


● :MEX: Club América
● :MEX: Cruz Azul
● :CRI: Deportivo Saprissa
● :CRI: Alajuelense
● :MEX: Monterrey
● :MEX: Pachuca
● :HON: CD Olimpia
● :GUA: Comunicaciones
● :MEX: Club Universidad Nacional
● :MEX: Deportivo Toluca
● :SUR: Transvaal
● :USA: DC United
● :MEX: Tigres UANL
● :MEX: Guadalajara
● :MEX: Necaxa
● :TRT: Defence Force
● :MEX: Atlante
● :USA: LA Galaxy
● :GUA: CSD Municipal
● :MEX: Club León
● :USA: Seattle Sounders



:AUS: A-League (16) [in place of Thai League]
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● Sydney FC
● South Melbourne
● Marconi Stallions
● Maccabi Hakoah
● Central Coast Mariners
● Melbourne Victory
● Perth Glory
● Sydney Olympic
● Adelaide United
● Melbourne Knights
● Brisbane Roar
● Melbourne City
● Adelaide City
● Wollongong Wolves
● Western Sydney Wanderers
● Newcastle United Jets

alternatives
● Sydney United
● APIA Leichhardt



:CHN: Super League (16)
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● Liaoning
● Beijing Guoan
● Guangzhou
● Shanghai Shenhua
● Shandong Taishan
● Dalian Shide
● Bayi
● Tianjin Jinmen Tiger
● Shanghai Port
● Guangdong Winnerway
● Jiangsu
● Shenzhen
● Beijing Renhe
● Changchun Yatai
● Yanbian Fude
● Wuhan Zall

alternatives
● Wuhan Three Towns



:JAP: J1 League (18)
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● Urawa Red Diamonds
● Yokohama F. Marinos
● Kashima Antlers
● Sanfrecce Hiroshima
● Tokyo Verdy
● Júbilo Iwata
● Cerezo Osaka
● Gamba Osaka
● JEF United Ichihara Chiba
● Kawasaki Frontale
● Shōnan Bellmare
● Kashiwa Reysol
● Nagoya Grampus
● Shimizu S-Pulse
● Yokohama FC
● Nippon Steel Yawata
● NKK
● Vissel Kōbe

alternatives
● FC Tokyo



Image Rest of Asia (up to 36) [32 for AFC Champions League and the others for Other Teams (Asia)]
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● :SUA: Al-Hilal Saudi
● :SUA: Al-Ittihad Saudi
● :IRAN: Esteghlal
● :SUC: Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors
● :UAE: Al-Ain
● :IRAN: Persepolis
● :SUC: Suwon Samsung Bluewings
● :SUC: Pohang Steelers
● :SUC: Seongnam FC
● :QAT: Al-Sadd
● :SUC: Ulsan HD
● :SUA: Al-Nassr
● :THA: Thai Farmers Bank (1991-1999 era team)
● :SUC: FC Seoul
● :SUA: Al-Shabab
● :SUA: Al-Ahli Saudi
● :KUW: Kuwait SC
● :KUW: Qadsia SC
● :QAT: Al-Duhail
● :UZB: Pakhtakor
● :SUC: Busan IPark
● :BAH: Al-Muharraq
● :IRAN: PAS Tehran
● :UZB: Nasaf Qarshi
● :UZB: Bunyodkor
● :IRAN: Sepahan
● :SYR: Al-Karamah
● :UAE: Al-Wahda
● :SYR: Al-Ittihad Aleppo
● :IRAQ: Al-Zawraa
● :IRAN: Zob Ahan
● :QAT: Al-Arabi
● :NOC: April 25
● :UAE: Shabab Al-Ahli Dubai
● :MLY: Selangor
● :QAT: Al-Rayyan

alternatives
● :ISR: Maccabi Tel Aviv
● :ISR: Hapoel Tel Aviv
● :THA: Police Tero
● :IRAQ: Al-Rasheed (1983-1990 era team)
● :UZB: Neftchi Fergana
● :UAE: Al-Wasl



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alternatives (32 national teams version)
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● Mali
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alternatives
● Ethiopia
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● Congo
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● Togo



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alternatives
● Guatemala
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● Trinidad and Tobago
● Cuba



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● Argentina
● Uruguay
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Australia's and New Zealand's results in the OFC Oceania Cup have a minor weight in comparison to the results of the countries in the AFC Asian Cup.

● South Korea
● Japan
● Iran
● Saudi Arabia
● Australia
● Qatar
● Iraq
● China
● Kuwait
● United Arab Emirates
● North Korea
● New Zealand
● Uzbekistan
● India
● Jordan
● Vietnam
● Thailand

alternatives
● Israel
● Bahrain
● Hong Kong
● Indonesia
● Chinese Taipei
● Myanmar
● Tajikistan
Author:  Bola Clássica [ Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
That is a very interesting post. I also have serie A and B for Brazilian Championship and our choices are very similar, only 2 or 3 different choicer per tier.

Note that we dont have Paraná AS created so far. We can do it though. It would be easy as Paraná is a new team, created by the unificantion of two clubs (Colorado and Pinheiros).

I also notice you dont have Dinamo Gradanski listed. Did you merge it with Dinamo Zagreb as I did?
Author:  Interista93 [ Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Bola Clássica wrote:
That is a very interesting post. I also have serie A and B for Brazilian Championship and our choices are very similar, only 2 or 3 different choicer per tier.

Note that we dont have Paraná AS created so far. We can do it though. It would be easy as Paraná is a new team, created by the unificantion of two clubs (Colorado and Pinheiros).

I also notice you dont have Dinamo Gradanski listed. Did you merge it with Dinamo Zagreb as I did?

Thanks mate! You're right about Paraná. I highlighted the name by mistake.

Yes, Dinamo Zagreb includes Dinamo Građanski and Croatia Zagreb.
Author:  Bola Clássica [ Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Cool!

Well, since you mentioned that: "Feel free to give suggestions to change teams or the order and explain the reason."

I have some ideas but of course I would need to see the competitions you take into consideration first. For example, did you considered Torneio dos Campeoes won by America RJ in 1982?

Also, you probably considered Taça Brasil as national league, what about rebuild it considering it as a national cup (what it actually was).

You probably didnt count with state leagues at all but how did you weight old decades clubs? It was our most important competition. (Brazil is a continental country and we didnt have structure for travelling at old decades, the roads for the inner country started later decades, that is another important reason for Taça Brasil be a cup, not a championship).

One more thing, I didnt see regional competitions, so you are probably not counting with torneio rio-sao paulo, right? Also, for the northest clubs northest competition is a must.

Well, I believe I already told it here but Brazil football history is really peculiar and you cant do the same as some people do trying to fit it in European standards. Otherwise you end up changing history as it is already being done nowadays and we are losing our old memory.

Anyway, feel free to debate it if you wish.
Author:  Interista93 [ Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Bola Clássica wrote:
For example, did you considered Torneio dos Campeoes won by America RJ in 1982?

Also, you probably considered Taça Brasil as national league, what about rebuild it considering it as a national cup (what it actually was).

You probably didnt count with state leagues at all but how did you weight old decades clubs? It was our most important competition. (Brazil is a continental country and we didnt have structure for travelling at old decades, the roads for the inner country started later decades, that is another important reason for Taça Brasil be a cup, not a championship).

One more thing, I didnt see regional competitions, so you are probably not counting with torneio rio-sao paulo, right? Also, for the northest clubs northest competition is a must.

In the first version I didn't consider the Torneio dos Campeões nor the regional tournaments and I considered the Taça Brasil as a championship. Of course, following your suggestions the Taça Brasil titles from 1958 to 1969 have now a minor weight compared to the following Brazilian championships. I also gave more importance to the state leagues prior to 1969, so before Taça Brasil was replaced by the Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa.

So, I made an update considering more regional and inter-regional competitions. At first glance Paysandu and Fortaleza may look out of place in the top league but they've been two powerhouse teams in their respective state league and cup for many years.
Author:  Bola Clássica [ Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Interista93 wrote:
At first glance Paysandu and Fortaleza may look out of place in the top league but they've been two powerhouse teams in their respective state league and cup for many years.



I know what you are saying but they werent exactly playing in a strong state league.

For example, at past days we had a Brazilian Championship that was played with the All Stars players of each state. That was our truely first Brazilian Championship, eventhough not making sense for us nowadays, that was played for real and was very important that time.

Of course it was forgotten because noone support those teams nowadays. Someone from Rio de Janeiro, support a local team not the all stars of his state that not even exists anymore.

Anyway, if you wanna do a very minuscious job regarding that you can take into account State Brazilian Championship positions and you can give the proper state championships weights.

For example, Rio de Janeiro was 15x champion, Sao Paulo 13x, Minas Gerais and Bahia 1x and you can check the runners up and so on.

Anyway, it is a hard job I would say. It is too much. That's why my choices are more intuitive than ranked.
Author:  Interista93 [ Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Bola Clássica wrote:
Anyway, if you wanna do a very minuscious job regarding that you can take into account State Brazilian Championship positions and you can give the proper state championships weights.

For example, Rio de Janeiro was 15x champion, Sao Paulo 13x, Minas Gerais and Bahia 1x and you can check the runners up and so on.

Anyway, it is a hard job I would say. It is too much. That's why my choices are more intuitive than ranked.

I thought about this. As I said, those two teams don't look like they fit in the top league with Brazilian giants. I'm going to PM you about this matter.
Author:  Interista93 [ Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
I'd like an opinion. Would you consider PES 2021 as last title to use for a classic mod? My question is due to the fact that since PES 2022 Konami has based its game on season updates. I can't say anything for sure because I haven't had the chance to play any of the most recent titles, but I have the feeling that the newest titles are hard to mod due to the constant updates. Furthermore, PES 2021 is the last title that features the fake leagues for Europe, South America, Asia and Africa.
Author:  27DONI72 [ Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
I have created classic files until 2016 with Pes6 club/national era teams, I'm not expert in new generations files and I'm too old and lazy to learn it, too much complicated for me to work on single teams, I was confortable with ps2 games using Pes editors on pc and move files to ps2 with max drive.

For what I have heard, last titles are only for online play, so I'd stop with pes21 (last title I have played).

About teams: actually I wouldn't care about leagues made by Konami, I don't care about Denmark league for example so I'd change it with a more interesting league since the are a lot of rest of Europe teams, but I know there is the problem of licensed teams that can't be changed.
Surely Honvéd should be in the game.
Author:  Interista93 [ Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
27DONI72 wrote:
For what I have heard, last titles are only for online play, so I'd stop with pes21 (last title I have played).

This is exactly what I think. PES 2021 is the last editable one and that's a big help because there are no American and Japanese leagues. So, no need to list very old and useless teams.


27DONI72 wrote:
About teams: actually I wouldn't care about leagues made by Konami, I don't care about Denmark league for example so I'd change it with a more interesting league since the are a lot of rest of Europe teams, but I know there is the problem of licensed teams that can't be changed.
Surely Honvéd should be in the game.

I've remembered that some PES titles actually have more than 38 slots for European teams. PES 2016, for example, has 20 real teams plus 29 fake ones and 2 more fake ones to take from the PEU League in case you replace it with an 18-team Bundesliga. It's true that some PES titles have teams hidden in Master League but those can be unlocked via editing tools. And when it comes to licensed leagues like the Danish one, those can be edited too except for the number of teams, so you should replace it with a league that has the same number of teams if you want to make it as realistic as possible.
Author:  Interista93 [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Thread updated. I also added a map that shows the number of teams in each PES. Hopefully it can help you choose faster what teams to create depending on the version of PES you play.

P.S. Since 27DONI72 mentioned the fact that he created classic files with era teams, I want to say that this list probably works for era teams too. I believe all these teams had at least one remarkable era in their history. Taking Italy as example, maybe Casale would be a challenge given that they peaked in one specific year, but this team can be easily replaced by Avellino which is listed as alternative for the all stars version.
Author:  27DONI72 [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
My option file was created only for 1vs1 against my real life friends not for in game Cup, leagues, etc.

In Pes6 I overwrited every single club and national teams with classic era teams so biggest teams had various era for example Milan Gre-No-Li, Milan Schiaffino, Milan Rocco 1, Milan Rocco 2, Milan 78-79, Milan Sacchi, etc.
IMHO your idea is perfect for all stars teams, impossible to do with era teams.
Author:  Interista93 [ Fri Sep 08, 2023 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Added DDR-Oberliga, Austrian Bundesliga and Yugoslav Prva Liga as alternatives to Superligæn, Swiss Super League and Turkish Süper Lig respectively.
Author:  Interista93 [ Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
I've been reworking these lists with better criteria that satisfy me more as the results seem more complete and realistic. So I was thinking whether it would be more interesting to post these lists in the Football History section instead of here. This way I'll post more of them compared to what's here in case you want an idea for more countries. The first post will serve as index to have a better organised thread.
Author:  27DONI72 [ Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PES in-game classic teams: definitive list
Moved in Football history section. Great job.
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